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From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
To: 22169@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22169: 25.0.50; File name compiletion doesn't work with non-ASCII characters on OS X
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:42:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h9jfpxug.fsf@fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABr8ebY7KmucTeRXtHedw77LZ651jfDPw=5w9ONAbAewtDQskg@mail.gmail.com>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>   . modern OSes cache this stuff, so you can do that without ever
>     hitting the disk

*ever*? Surely at least once.

>   . many modern machines have SSDs (mine does), where disk drive
>     accesses, even when they are needed, are very fast

They're fast, yes, but my own gut feeling is that they're not
actually fast *enough* not to be the bottleneck.

>   . by contrast, decoding a non-trivial encoding might take many CPU
>     cycles, especially in the utf-8-hfs case, where we call Lisp as
>     part of that

I don't know why "especially in the utf-8-hfs case" - the
current code is no more correct for utf-8-hfs on Linux than for
utf-8-hfs on OSX.

> Yes, but only in UTF-8 locales.  I won't be surprised to learn that
> most of Far East uses something else, even on GNU/Linux.  And then
> there are Windows volumes mounted via NFS and such likes.

I think most people who do this (I should think it would be
SMB/CIFS rather than NFS - if it's really NFS then I suppose the
translation has to happen on the Windows side) have the file-
system translated to UTF-8 [etc] for them by the kernel.  There
are mount options "iocharset" and "codepage" (the latter for the
filesystem's coding system on 8-bit filesystems), to take care
of this.  Working with multiple different directories with
different filename encoding systems is a pathological case, and
one which as far as I know Emacs makes no attempt to deal with
(except by the user switching manually).






  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-18 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-14 19:08 bug#22169: 25.0.50; File name compiletion doesn't work with non-ASCII characters on OS X Anders Lindgren
2015-12-14 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-14 21:09   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-14 22:07     ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-15  3:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-15  5:12         ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-15  9:31           ` Andreas Schwab
2015-12-15 10:21             ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-15 16:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-15 15:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-15 19:16             ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-15 19:56               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-15 20:05                 ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-17 22:01                   ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-18  2:46                     ` Random832
2015-12-18  6:29                     ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-18  7:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-18 15:26                         ` Random832
2015-12-18 17:06                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-20 17:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-20 19:16                           ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-20 19:39                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-20 22:00                               ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-21  3:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-21  6:52                                   ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-21 16:09                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-21 22:03                                       ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-22  3:37                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-22  5:42                                           ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-22 17:10                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-22 22:29                                               ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-23  3:37                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-23  6:17                                                   ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-23 17:36                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-24 19:23                                                       ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-24 19:33                                                         ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-24 19:42                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-18  7:25                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-18  8:38                       ` Anders Lindgren
2015-12-18  9:15                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-18 15:42                           ` Random832 [this message]
2015-12-15 21:53                 ` Random832
2015-12-16  3:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-16  5:05                     ` Random832
2015-12-16 10:17                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-16 16:00                         ` Random832
2015-12-16 17:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-16 18:19                             ` Random832
2015-12-16 18:51                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-14 20:49 ` Random832
2015-12-14 22:41 ` bug#22169: 25.0.50; File name compiletion doesn't work with non-ASCII ch Anders Lindgren

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