From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28597: 26.0.60; [Security] Configure should use --without-pop by default Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 22:04:49 +0200 Message-ID: <87h8vl1db2.fsf@gmail.com> References: <837ewh8x5z.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2upd2h5.fsf@gmail.com> <83a81d7666.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506715530 6622 195.159.176.226 (29 Sep 2017 20:05:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:05:30 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 28597@debbugs.gnu.org, nljlistbox2@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 29 22:05:23 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dy1XG-00010d-If for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rpluim-ubuntu ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a090:80ba:c42d:69c7:d031]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i8sm4192539wra.56.2017.09.29.13.04.51 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: <83a81d7666.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:42:25 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:137641 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Cc: John Wiegley , nljlistbox2@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 28597@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:05:42 +0200 >> >> I thought we were discussing making --without-pop be the default even >> if GNU Mailutils are not available, and it's what I'm >> advocating. Paul's patch only did that if they were found. > > If that's what people want, fine with me on Posix platforms, but not > on MS-Windows (where Mailutils are not available, and probably never > will be). > I'll defer to you on MS-Windows affairs :-) >> If that means that some people need to install GNU Mailutils, which >> support secure(r) protocols, then I'm all in favour. > > But the effect of encouraging the installation of Mailutils will only > be achieved if the configure script displays something about that. > AFIU, the proposal was to make --without-pop the default and not > display any message, in which case people just get movemail without > POP3, and we might be silently breaking someone's setup. Do we want > that? No, we don't. I'll see if I can come up with some verbiage over the weekend, once I reconfigure my brain to (re-)understand autoconf Robert