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Contovounesios" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#34975: 26.1.92; In backquote, the comma marker does not work with variable name started with dot Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2019 02:15:18 +0100 Message-ID: <87h8bd2qxl.fsf@tcd.ie> References: <87sgvcxpzh.fsf@web.de> <1430c67b-c447-47b4-92b3-1cba335e8193@default> <877ecnybya.fsf@web.de> <87wokae99v.fsf@gmail.com> <83mul5dih0.fsf@gnu.org> <87mul5ewbn.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7h54d7c.fsf@tcd.ie> <87k1g9e3zl.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="150241"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, mail@xuchunyang.me, 34975@debbugs.gnu.org To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 05 03:16:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hCDSk-000cw9-J2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2019 03:16:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33599 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hCDSj-0004xu-Hf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2019 21:16:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58030) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hCDSd-0004xe-PN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2019 21:16:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hCDSc-0001Uh-Qn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2019 21:16:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:59567) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hCDSc-0001UO-Jj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2019 21:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hCDSc-0004rL-EO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2019 21:16:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Basil L. 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But to be honest, that sounds like premature > optimization to me. That or dubious style, indeed. ;) > By the way, in Bug#19790 Stefan opposed making ",." destructive. > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=19790#23 My knee-jerk reaction is simply "if it's already there, why not realise its purpose", but I ultimately don't mind either way. -- Basil