And finally with the lines truncated for real -- note the longer scroll bar. So it seems to compute the length of the scroll bar based on the non-truncated length of the text in the buffer. > What happens if you customize the value of > scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion? Then it seems to adjust the height of the scroll bar logically (i.e., based on what's shown in the window, and not on the length of the (truncated) text). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no