From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49997: 27.2; idle-time reset when switching desktop-page Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 19:12:55 +0200 Message-ID: <87h7fqiqco.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87eeb0mkxa.fsf@a16n.net> <83tujwdwe0.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfzakczt.fsf@gnus.org> <83eeauaihs.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6likc5a.fsf@gnus.org> <83bl5yahta.fsf@gnu.org> <87y292isxp.fsf@gnus.org> <838s12ac5f.fsf@gnu.org> <837dgmac13.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3894"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 49997@debbugs.gnu.org, pm@a16n.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 15 19:14:09 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mFJi5-0000nN-9b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 19:14:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59846 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mFJi4-0004kf-Az for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 13:14:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54974) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mFJhy-0004jf-Hs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 13:14:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36138) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mFJhy-0000hS-83 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 13:14:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mFJhy-0007Iu-3y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 13:14:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 17:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49997 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: confirmed Original-Received: via spool by 49997-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49997.162904759028006 (code B ref 49997); Sun, 15 Aug 2021 17:14:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 49997) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2021 17:13:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47684 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mFJh7-0007He-W1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 13:13:10 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:33876) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mFJh6-0007HP-HQ for 49997@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 13:13:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=jjQX+RvyooLYOhz5pnZ+E3IjLu8xzTP0x7w/wTfLcbE=; b=f13+gd4ZmYb97BG9ylmoQ8JUD8 KYVc5vJ6JDM3e0rWsgO2gl0s369CeSaRSUoKueEgBPBoTRXOuOJq0SVdII0ccEs0a+cDa/gVuz8on GkITDwY1wWutWEeMO94CYzRUffzdPhwQ4mp0pS8z3ndIHmRKvJPCItd3KdBdXsad4ZVU=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mFJgv-0002pr-Ty; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 19:13:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <837dgmac13.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 15 Aug 2021 19:49:28 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:211936 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> And if it does present a problem, cannot the OP use >> after-focus-change-function to restart the idleness? > > Or maybe configure the WM not to send focus-out events for a page > switch? Well, it does definitely lose focus when we switch to a different desktop, so I think the events themselves are correct (more or less). I guess the concept of "Emacs is idle" isn't well-defined. I think a natural interpretation of the it is "I haven't done anything in Emacs". And giving focus to Emacs isn't "in Emacs", in a way. So we could bar FOCUS_IN/FOCUS_OUT from changing idleness in general. On the other hand, getting/losing focus is a thing that happens to Emacs, so it's not really "idle". I dunno. Perhaps we should just leave it as is. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no