From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46472: Make lisp/mail/uce.el obsolete Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 15:07:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87h74j8mm4.fsf@gnus.org> References: <83im6we6v8.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtw8cbku.fsf@gnu.org> <1br1ku3eji.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40614"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas , 46472@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 17 15:08:29 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o2Bi9-000AOJ-Ky for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 15:08:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37264 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o2Bi8-0000us-GY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 09:08:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34512) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o2Bhi-0000sj-GT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 09:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:50396) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o2Bhi-00023m-8A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 09:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o2Bhi-0002LV-0r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 09:08:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46472 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: security Original-Received: via spool by 46472-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46472.16554712488951 (code B ref 46472); Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:08:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46472) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jun 2022 13:07:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44290 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o2BhA-0002KJ-Fv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 09:07:28 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55444) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o2Bh8-0002K4-8x for 46472@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 09:07:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=f0EH/M7ZuUMINf8+J/01YHtRNYMHEqsHi+fr5OLZoj4=; b=YQrLq7C1RFtr1edcLF8gLJXdk/ vdSwqDhWEqEQsqNx2CnQ4z6x17v7h/xMchzJ6UZyHtzYytjbAX8ticgRA3AwnQyhRWkiaCWtH1DDS l/FlS9TDxjgE0OtiwT6hoeQZlClAvMU3yK7uC35AE7F3p3nNa+dUij0rFJcfsjnvRoq4=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o2Bgy-0003Be-2O; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 15:07:19 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Sevdaliza's _Shabrang_: "No Way" In-Reply-To: <1br1ku3eji.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 04 Mar 2021 14:27:29 -0500") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:234688 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > Replying to spam is at best pointless, but most likely actively harmful. > Emacs having a package to help you reply to spam is at best pointless, > but most likely actively harmful. > > This is one of the many things that makes Emacs look antiquated. > I find the refusal to even obsolete such things demotivating for working > on Emacs. So IMO the cost for keeping such things around is non-zero. I think, on reflection, that this is a good argument. And I agree with everybody's that said that you should never use uce.el, so I've now moved it to obsolete. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no