* bug#69250: Chromebook issue with 'report-emacs-bug'.
@ 2024-02-18 4:12 Robert Boyer
2024-02-18 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Robert Boyer @ 2024-02-18 4:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 69250
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Dear Emacs bug fixers,
Only yesterday, I encountered the following problem. When I tried to use
m-x report-emacs-bug on my Chromebook, I found it impossible to use
report-emacs-bug. When I hit c-c c-c, I was unable to get the message
sent, even trying the three mailer options that were proposed.
I am uncertain exactly how much of the following info might be useful to
you. While tonight I am back to using Emacs 27.1, I encountered the
problem while using Emacs 28, which has now disappeared on me somehow.
Thanks very much,
Robert Boyer
614 W 32nd St
Austin, TX 78705
512 467 0182
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* bug#69250: Chromebook issue with 'report-emacs-bug'.
2024-02-18 4:12 bug#69250: Chromebook issue with 'report-emacs-bug' Robert Boyer
@ 2024-02-18 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
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0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-02-18 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Robert Boyer; +Cc: 69250
> From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2024 22:12:08 -0600
>
> Only yesterday, I encountered the following problem. When I tried to use m-x report-emacs-bug on my
> Chromebook, I found it impossible to use report-emacs-bug. When I hit c-c c-c, I was unable to get the
> message sent, even trying the three mailer options that were proposed.
Please tell more: what exactly happened when you tried each one of the
options, and what were your steps of trying them.
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* bug#69250: Chromebook issue with 'report-emacs-bug'.
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@ 2024-02-18 19:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-18 20:17 ` Robert Boyer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-02-18 19:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Robert Boyer; +Cc: 69250
> From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 13:14:27 -0600
> Cc: 69250@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> > Please tell more: what exactly happened when you tried each one of the
> > options, and what were your steps of trying them.
>
> I think that what's below was sent because report-emacs-bug is now defaulting, probably to the 'transport'
> option. How do I now try to see and use the other options? That is, how do I now turn off the 'defaulting'?
>
> Auto-Submitted: auto-replied
> From: Mail Delivery System <Mailer-Daemon@penguin>
> To: robertstephenboyer@penguin
> Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary=1708283349-eximdsn-1677957650
> Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 13:09:09 -0600
>
> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
>
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
>
> bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Mailing to remote domains not supported
Sounds like some problem with your email setup.
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* bug#69250: Chromebook issue with 'report-emacs-bug'.
2024-02-18 19:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2024-02-18 20:17 ` Robert Boyer
2024-02-19 14:38 ` Philip Kaludercic
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Robert Boyer @ 2024-02-18 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 69250
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> Sounds like some problem with your email setup.
I am sure you are right.
However, I do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 1:29 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 13:14:27 -0600
> > Cc: 69250@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > > Please tell more: what exactly happened when you tried each one of the
> > > options, and what were your steps of trying them.
> >
> > I think that what's below was sent because report-emacs-bug is now
> defaulting, probably to the 'transport'
> > option. How do I now try to see and use the other options? That is,
> how do I now turn off the 'defaulting'?
> >
> > Auto-Submitted: auto-replied
> > From: Mail Delivery System <Mailer-Daemon@penguin>
> > To: robertstephenboyer@penguin
> > Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
> boundary=1708283349-eximdsn-1677957650
> > Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
> > Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 13:09:09 -0600
> >
> > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
> >
> > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> >
> > bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> > Mailing to remote domains not supported
>
> Sounds like some problem with your email setup.
>
--
Anything I seem to state should be taken as a question. I am at least 77
and feeble.
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* bug#69250: Chromebook issue with 'report-emacs-bug'.
2024-02-18 20:17 ` Robert Boyer
@ 2024-02-19 14:38 ` Philip Kaludercic
[not found] ` <CAP9n0TPiovkwAVSrxZJqkv4DX2us380BGpcXG=m0-Yd66VN0+A@mail.gmail.com>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Philip Kaludercic @ 2024-02-19 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Robert Boyer; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 69250
Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com> writes:
>> Sounds like some problem with your email setup.
>
> I am sure you are right.
>
> However, I do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
Have you configured anything regarding email in Emacs?
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* bug#69250: Chromebook issue with 'report-emacs-bug'.
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@ 2024-02-19 20:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-19 21:01 ` Robert Boyer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Philip Kaludercic @ 2024-02-19 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Robert Boyer; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 69250
Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com> writes:
> Dear Philip,
>
>> Have you configured anything regarding email in Emacs?
>
> No sir, nothing. Can I help try something?
I have this in my init.el, perhaps it could give you some hints:
(setopt user-mail-address "philipk@posteo.net"
send-mail-function #'smtpmail-send-it
smtpmail-smtp-server "posteo.de"
smtpmail-stream-type 'starttls
smtpmail-smtp-service 587)
>
> Do not underestimate how dumb I am.
>
> It is my 'feeling' that on my $100 Lenovo Chromebook, with its utterly
> superb Emacs,
> RMAIL cannot send email to anyone I can imagine sending it to. Which is
> why I have so chauvinistically suggested 'made in China', e.g., Lenovo, may
> have something to do with the matter! But that is another of my sick jokes.
>
> I used RMAIL as my only emailer for decades, but switched to gmail because
> RMAIL was losing on 'attachments'. I now love gmail. It is one part of
> the proof that Google is the greatest company that has ever existed. gmail
> is free. space seems unlimited. I am so insignificant that I do not give a
> damn whether Google looks at my mail or not. My lifelong email motto is:
> when sending email, always imagine that it is cced to letters at NYT.
> Heavens knows that spooks look at all email, unless one uses 'signal ' or
> something like that. In Europe, the government is suing signal to force
> them to change their ultra secret ways. I have tried to use 'signal' and
> enjoyed it, but am now scared to use it any more; don't want to get sued.
>
> Have you guys tried RMAIL on Chromebooks? Only costs $100 to buy one.
> There are a huge number of Chromebooks in the world, and one can get, and
> enjoy Emacs, with a mere one line command 'sudo apt-get install emacs',
> after one has installed Linux, which of course must always be called 'Gnu
> Linux', or you might rightly get email from rms. To my astonishment, the
> installation of Linux was about the easiest thing I could imagine.
I have no experience with Chromebooks.
> With the highest imaginable love of Emacs,
>
> Bob
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 8:38 AM Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> >> Sounds like some problem with your email setup.
>> >
>> > I am sure you are right.
>> >
>> > However, I do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
>>
>> Have you configured anything regarding email in Emacs?
>>
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* bug#69250: Chromebook issue with 'report-emacs-bug'.
2024-02-19 20:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
@ 2024-02-19 21:01 ` Robert Boyer
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Robert Boyer @ 2024-02-19 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Philip Kaludercic; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, 69250
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> I have no experience with Chromebooks.
I am willing to send you $100 in cash, if you wish, if you buy a
Chromebook, and if you send me a postal address to which to send the $100.
In Austin, I had good luck with 'Best Buy'.
I am laughing at this! I wonder if it has ever happened before that a user
has offered to buy a bug reporting service a computer. Chromebooks can
cost a lot of money, for which one no doubt gets a lot. But I bought the
cheapest I could possibly find in order to help make ACL2 available to all
students in the world, who are mainly using Chromebooks. I have put up on
my working directory
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UoCT8YaisJBE-deMYJ8n1VE1rNg6K_MW
under ./acl2 the acl2 source, coded by J Moore and Matt Kaufmann, and 16
gigabytes of proofs that ACL2 generates. Many folks have contributed the
theorems.
Thanks so much. I very, very much want to get RMAIL working on my
Chromebook.
Tell me what to try next.
Bob
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 2:06 PM Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
wrote:
> Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Dear Philip,
> >
> >> Have you configured anything regarding email in Emacs?
> >
> > No sir, nothing. Can I help try something?
>
> I have this in my init.el, perhaps it could give you some hints:
>
> (setopt user-mail-address "philipk@posteo.net"
> send-mail-function #'smtpmail-send-it
> smtpmail-smtp-server "posteo.de"
> smtpmail-stream-type 'starttls
> smtpmail-smtp-service 587)
>
> >
> > Do not underestimate how dumb I am.
> >
> > It is my 'feeling' that on my $100 Lenovo Chromebook, with its utterly
> > superb Emacs,
> > RMAIL cannot send email to anyone I can imagine sending it to. Which is
> > why I have so chauvinistically suggested 'made in China', e.g., Lenovo,
> may
> > have something to do with the matter! But that is another of my sick
> jokes.
> >
> > I used RMAIL as my only emailer for decades, but switched to gmail
> because
> > RMAIL was losing on 'attachments'. I now love gmail. It is one part of
> > the proof that Google is the greatest company that has ever existed.
> gmail
> > is free. space seems unlimited. I am so insignificant that I do not
> give a
> > damn whether Google looks at my mail or not. My lifelong email motto is:
> > when sending email, always imagine that it is cced to letters at NYT.
> > Heavens knows that spooks look at all email, unless one uses 'signal ' or
> > something like that. In Europe, the government is suing signal to force
> > them to change their ultra secret ways. I have tried to use 'signal' and
> > enjoyed it, but am now scared to use it any more; don't want to get sued.
> >
> > Have you guys tried RMAIL on Chromebooks? Only costs $100 to buy one.
> > There are a huge number of Chromebooks in the world, and one can get, and
> > enjoy Emacs, with a mere one line command 'sudo apt-get install emacs',
> > after one has installed Linux, which of course must always be called 'Gnu
> > Linux', or you might rightly get email from rms. To my astonishment, the
> > installation of Linux was about the easiest thing I could imagine.
>
> I have no experience with Chromebooks.
>
> > With the highest imaginable love of Emacs,
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 8:38 AM Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >> >> Sounds like some problem with your email setup.
> >> >
> >> > I am sure you are right.
> >> >
> >> > However, I do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
> >>
> >> Have you configured anything regarding email in Emacs?
> >>
>
--
Anything I seem to state should be taken as a question. I am at least 77
and feeble.
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