From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mats Lidell Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#74042: [PATCH] Accept texi2any for version identification Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 22:33:59 +0100 Message-ID: <87h68x44e0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87jzduaqou.fsf@gnu.org> <86zfmpaolv.fsf@gnu.org> <87plnl4epo.fsf@gnu.org> <868qu98ide.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35923"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: 74042@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 27 22:34:48 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t5AuO-0009EC-1E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 22:34:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5Au6-0001gd-UU; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:34:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5Au4-0001en-V5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:34:29 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5Au4-00012o-DH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:34:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=debbugs.gnu.org; s=debbugs-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:To:Subject; bh=YXW6B5g/jLZalMN224p8NAvYXvnxh7wHcpa+p+xB+aM=; b=fSEneESoLbBCqJeaGf50n29QUC12XioaO4FGT3CKWdhX/HFdBhN4280XwjF2YYq5XmGxIu7vwNlEHKRgOTY6i8Orp9DQpbX4E6p19Je2E5oANYRhI26RaYLnTmzd+ADgXMrqz2Zw+B+ysx7aSfa9AJ1Ih2j3MOUl1R85n9m7olag5pgwCYMzNdZlQfAuMLKfg0ibkEaD6/1n82fuxpyQavDf+VtVKTPKwE7GWvOHqFQm7/G9JbR7qAAXmgPw5374FCZLIzsWezePltHs9Bvft182xOdWkZ2JOhnuMjVx9kXa6JUo5ZzUuBbXJssFK92mxM7fbjX2lmekCL0GvsG48Q==; Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t5Auc-00041A-Ki for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:35:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Mats Lidell Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 21:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74042 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 74042-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74042.173006488715410 (code B ref 74042); Sun, 27 Oct 2024 21:35:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 74042) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Oct 2024 21:34:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46592 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t5AuN-00040U-Gm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:34:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35730) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t5AuL-00040E-2v for 74042@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:34:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5Atg-00010S-AF for 74042@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 17:34:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=YXW6B5g/jLZalMN224p8NAvYXvnxh7wHcpa+p+xB+aM=; b=aNlRFG6/LQ8HL0N1gDEz 6+aGtI2a+xgS9BxXaxe2jWSh0oypTu70NrTEAm7ced1ArGqtfPCNcnSv41rSTsWgeUu5CMems3W5s QJ5pIZbl1i9UZC8MJqioYTEOuwVoRYqq9nEgbcvjgkfNImWCAQVhjGZdNXgVxFsq3Dy9+zXfDgw1R is7J52bZ5H0DJaLx/AOyraglJbNUVK2vuowNF1tJ4JAPE0BTeutybJNVy+c8Zx8/dAgyAimBw9d7W biZT8LrJPMdzzn+RLsujcZFLsrnNj2Mjwp5whnpGQGUvIx7mo0WqNsABQR85rWsikaRGkdfpoGn0G 1vZaQ6Ec1fAQdw==; In-Reply-To: <868qu98ide.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 27 Oct 2024 21:18:21 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:294395 Archived-At: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > Why would users do that by invoking texi2any directly? Because texi2any is a tool for generating info files from texi files!? We started to use it with GNU Hyperbole and got into this subtle issue (and wasted some hours due to it.) > FTR, I'm very unhappy about this change. I don't think we should support > this. It is not future-proof. Well to take a step back. Is not the root problem here that the version number of a tool is used for checking whether certain feature is supported in the info file? If the check would be more direct then the tool would not matter as long as the info file is correct!? The suggested patch is just a simple and pragmatic way to cause less surprises when a user or developer starts to use texi2any instead of makeinfo. Yours -- %% Mats