From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1219: 23.0.60; Default Font Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:05:53 -0400 Message-ID: <87fxmk61vy.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Reply-To: Chong Yidong , 1219@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224955840 25990 80.91.229.12 (25 Oct 2008 17:30:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1219@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Vinicius Jose Latorre Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 25 19:31:40 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ktmz6-0006QU-BH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:31:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34620 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ktmy0-00070o-Cg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:30:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ktmxm-0006wF-C6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:30:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ktmxl-0006vg-8U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:30:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48223 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ktmxk-0006vR-U4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:30:08 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:38715) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ktmxk-0003oO-MN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:30:08 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9PHU2MR003847; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:30:02 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m9PHF3hw032731; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:15:03 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Chong Yidong Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:15:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1219 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1219-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1219.122495435731441 (code B ref 1219); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:15:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1219) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Oct 2008 17:05:57 +0000 Original-Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9PH5nUe031435 for <1219@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:05:50 -0700 Original-Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 09B9257E1BA; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:05:53 -0400 (EDT) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:30:09 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:21895 Archived-At: I discussed this on emacs-devel at this link: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-10/msg00696.html David De La Harpe Golden's analysis seems correct to me: > No. but is it desirable to? If emacs says "monospace" to the OS, and > the OS returns something usable (see below), should emacs second guess > it? The distros with ttf-georgewilliams packages seem to be aware of > the issue and are fixing it by removing or renaming the font in favour > of the de-facto standard "monospace" virtual font name > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gw-fonts-ttf/+bug/95357/comments/6 So, we should probably leave things as they are. I'll add a note about this to etc/PROBLEMS.