From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1958: 23.0.60; org-mode does not honour shift-select-mode Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:14:18 -0500 Message-ID: <87fxjehs4l.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> References: <87r62y7jin.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <432B9329-1CE3-4D58-AD56-154C5DF4B6D9@uva.nl> <87mydmw0wx.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Reply-To: Chong Yidong , 1958@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1232468643 30717 80.91.229.12 (20 Jan 2009 16:24:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1958@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 20 17:25:15 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LPJPe-0000Il-BC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:25:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39222 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LPJON-0007zQ-4d for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:23:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LPJO0-0007na-3P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:23:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LPJNy-0007ms-Hr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:23:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38722 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LPJNy-0007mi-8Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:23:30 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:43171) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LPJNx-00050e-Jk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:23:29 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0KGNRsK019597; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:23:27 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n0KGK2G0018452; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:20:02 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Chong Yidong Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1958 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 1958-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1958.123246803917172 (code B ref 1958); Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:20:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1958) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 20 Jan 2009 16:13:59 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0KGDtn3017166 for <1958@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:13:56 -0800 Original-Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BA9C057E21E; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:14:18 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:41:33 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:23:31 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:24329 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: >> I don't think consistency demands that S-arrow perform text selection in >> other major modes. So, unless you wish to change it, we can leave this >> one alone. > > Once again then: I really prefer consistency. What do you mean with > "other major modes"? I really thought that S-arrow should perform > selection in all major modes since it is a very basic editing command. All things being equal, it's nice to have consistency, but the needs of individual major modes can outweigh this. To give another example, eshell rebinds the up and down arrows to move around in the shell command history, decoupling the usual equivalence of C-p/up and C-n/down. I don't use Org mode myself, but since Carsten, the package maintainer, appears to have given some thought into this, there is no harm deferring to him.