From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4980: 23.1.50; In File > Quit GUI, add "Cancel", write "Save", and simplify Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:31:42 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87fx89649t.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: Reply-To: Juri Linkov , 4980@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258710514 27180 80.91.229.12 (20 Nov 2009 09:48:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4980@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: "Jason A. 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Spiro's message of "Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:05:27 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:47:31 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:32750 Archived-At: > 1. As dak wrote in 2008 at > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/65537/focus=100634 there's > no Cancel button. "Closing the dialog window happens to achieve that > ... but it is not really obvious." Please add a Cancel button. > > 2. For the first choice, instead of writing "Yes", write "Save". > Usability researchers have found that action verbs are always better > when a list of choices is provided. I can explain why if you require > it. > > 3. The seven choices act as a confusing way to ask me which files to > save. Instead, as Joshua Juran suggested to me in > Freenode #macdev, you should use a dialog box like "gedit" uses ( > screenshot at http://omploader.org/vMnQzaw ; download gedit for > Windows / Mac at http://projects.gnome.org/gedit/ ): The graphical version of the closing dialog window is modelled after the corresponding minibuffer prompts. So if we are going to change "Yes/No" to "Quit without saving", "Save All" and "Cancel" (I wholeheartedly welcome this change since a "Yes/No" question is dangerous to lose unsaved changes), then we have to modify the minibuffer prompts too. Maybe in the non-graphical version we should display a list of unsaved buffers (in a fashion like the *Buffer List* for `C-x C-b') like we display the process list when quitting with running processes. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/