From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6774: Cut and paste with C-w/mouse-2 not working? Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:28:53 -0400 Message-ID: <87fwyr3glm.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <4C55EF50.3080100@alice.it> <4C5645A1.7000500@harpegolden.net> <87y6coby49.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C572AE6.7070104@harpegolden.net> <87wrs8ohnp.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C573A2A.3030007@harpegolden.net> <8762zphkaw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C5B4E28.4090808@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281112605 5149 80.91.229.12 (6 Aug 2010 16:36:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 16:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6774@debbugs.gnu.org, Angelo Graziosi To: David De La Harpe Golden Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 06 18:36:43 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhPuP-0003Xo-55 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:36:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38236 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhPuO-0002m4-3n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:36:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42536 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhPng-0006lg-Ef for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:29:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhOzu-0003eO-Uw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:38:16 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51154) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhOzu-0003eH-Tb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:38:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhOr0-000695-G9; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:29:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 15:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6774 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6774-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6774.128110850423610 (code B ref 6774); Fri, 06 Aug 2010 15:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6774) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2010 15:28:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhOqO-00068l-4m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:28:24 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po45.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.79]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhOqL-00068e-M4 for 6774@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:28:22 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014221.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po45.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o76FSrn6029681 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 6 Aug 2010 11:28:53 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 445ADC013; Fri, 6 Aug 2010 11:28:53 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4C5B4E28.4090808@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Fri, 06 Aug 2010 00:50:00 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:29:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:39283 Archived-At: David De La Harpe Golden writes: > Well, complexity mostly arose from doing it while preserving vestiges > of the existing lazy approach. Yes, the laziness seemed elegant, but > I'm concerned it's a dead end - it may be easier to get everything > right by starting out by setting the selection to a string when we > want it set to something new, and not setting it when we don't > (thereby preventing the select_window problems by not doing anything). Before discussing the underlying mechanics, let's figure out what the end result should be. The main question in my mind is this: for active regions made with C-SPC, as opposed to shift-selection or mouse dragging, do we want mere cursor motion to update the selection? (There is nothing analogous in other programs.) I think the best answer is no.