From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Florian Beck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9219: 24.0.50; bidi switches to R-to-L when I don't want it to Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 21:04:21 +0200 Message-ID: <87fwlhuhfu.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> References: <87r555vtmr.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <83ipqhaqnt.fsf@gnu.org> <87ei14vr61.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <83fwlkc2en.fsf@gnu.org> <87oc08sutd.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <838vrcbjwb.fsf@gnu.org> <87wreu2uuf.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <831ux2p9nf.fsf@gnu.org> <87k4au2pbp.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <83y5z9op5f.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1312484793 6736 80.91.229.12 (4 Aug 2011 19:06:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 19:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9219@debbugs.gnu.org, Florian Beck To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 04 21:06:29 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp3FU-0006tN-32 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 21:06:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34871 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp3FS-0005FR-JS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:06:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45333) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp3FP-0005F9-4U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:06:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp3FO-00012H-6Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:06:23 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42416) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp3FO-00012D-55 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:06:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp3G2-0005K5-Il; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:07:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Florian Beck Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9219 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9219-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9219.131248477020388 (code B ref 9219); Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:07:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9219) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2011 19:06:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp3FC-0005In-Bk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:06:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mo-p05-ob.rzone.de ([81.169.146.181]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp3FA-0005Ib-HT for 9219@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:06:09 -0400 X-RZG-AUTH: :KmALZ0mpdbGonPxw7gDkop508XQjelhLxGYn4B74/iddlkME3ssvHN/NVn+dtQ6oeN+TE6aWlA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 Original-Received: from flo-laptop (p54994636.dip.t-dialin.net [84.153.70.54]) by smtp.strato.de (jimi mo16) (RZmta 26.2) with (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted) ESMTPA id L0412an74ItqhI ; Thu, 4 Aug 2011 21:04:22 +0200 (MEST) In-Reply-To: <83y5z9op5f.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:02:04 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:07:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49906 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Sigh. The only thing I omitted was >>=20 >> (setq cursor-type 'bar) > > A bar cursor is drawn on the right side of R2L characters, but on the > left side of L2R characters. Is this what confused you? Yes. > So I think you only _think_ you have the LRM character between the > aleph and the following a, because the bar cursor makes a small > movement when you move from aleph to the a, but is shown between aleph > and a in both positions. Yet moves the point from 2 to 3. Ah, I get it: the cursor moves from the right of the alef to the left of the a. Obvious, when you think about it=E2=80=A6 > In fact, the LRM is to the left of aleph, you should be able to see > that if you modify LRM's entry in glyphless-char-display-control. Ok. > >> (but the cursor movement in rtl paragraphs confuses me, too). > > It takes some time to get used to. The manual says something vague > about it, like "don't be afraid, it's not a bug" or something. >From the manual and the docstrings I had the impression that , , and would move visually. That is not the case. See my example. Also, moves to the left (inside the ltr text inside the rtl paragraph). --=20 Florian Beck