* bug#9641: Man-notify-method 'bully does not remember how windows were
@ 2011-09-30 22:29 jidanni
2011-10-01 9:08 ` martin rudalics
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From: jidanni @ 2011-09-30 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9641
(setq Man-notify-method 'bully); but q didn't put me back in my initial state:
E.g., with a split window, do M-x man cat, then type q.
Only one window is restored.
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@ 2011-10-01 9:08 ` martin rudalics
2011-10-01 9:26 ` jidanni
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From: martin rudalics @ 2011-10-01 9:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jidanni; +Cc: 9641
> (setq Man-notify-method 'bully); but q didn't put me back in my initial state:
> E.g., with a split window, do M-x man cat, then type q.
> Only one window is restored.
Do you mean you have a frame with two windows, invoke man, type q in the
window used by man and get a frame with one window?
martin
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2011-09-30 22:29 bug#9641: Man-notify-method 'bully does not remember how windows were jidanni
2011-10-01 9:08 ` martin rudalics
@ 2011-10-01 9:26 ` jidanni
2011-10-01 10:05 ` martin rudalics
2011-10-01 10:14 ` jidanni
2011-10-01 11:55 ` bug#9641: Man-notify-method 'bully does not remember how windows were jidanni
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From: jidanni @ 2011-10-01 9:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rudalics; +Cc: 9641
>>>>> "mr" == martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:
>> (setq Man-notify-method 'bully); but q didn't put me back in my initial state:
>> E.g., with a split window, do M-x man cat, then type q.
>> Only one window is restored.
mr> Do you mean you have a frame with two windows, invoke man, type q in the
mr> window used by man and get a frame with one window?
I think so. I never learned "frames". The problem I see is the same in
"emacs -nw" too.
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* bug#9641: Man-notify-method 'bully does not remember how windows were
2011-10-01 9:26 ` jidanni
@ 2011-10-01 10:05 ` martin rudalics
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From: martin rudalics @ 2011-10-01 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jidanni; +Cc: 9641
> mr> Do you mean you have a frame with two windows, invoke man, type q in the
> mr> window used by man and get a frame with one window?
>
> I think so. I never learned "frames". The problem I see is the same in
> "emacs -nw" too.
Basically "bully" (in `Man-notify-when-ready') means
(bully
(and (frame-live-p saved-frame)
(select-frame saved-frame))
(pop-to-buffer man-buffer)
(delete-other-windows))
to pop to the man buffer in some window and to delete all other windows
on that frame. No command bound to `q' can restore any windows killed
by the `delete-other-windows' call. So if `q' earlier restored the
two-windows layout something strange must have happened. Maybe someone
can clarify ...
martin
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* bug#9641: Man-notify-method 'bully does not remember how windows were
2011-09-30 22:29 bug#9641: Man-notify-method 'bully does not remember how windows were jidanni
2011-10-01 9:08 ` martin rudalics
2011-10-01 9:26 ` jidanni
@ 2011-10-01 10:14 ` jidanni
2011-10-01 10:58 ` martin rudalics
2011-10-01 11:55 ` bug#9641: Man-notify-method 'bully does not remember how windows were jidanni
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From: jidanni @ 2011-10-01 10:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rudalics; +Cc: 9641
>>>>> "mr" == martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:
mr> to pop to the man buffer in some window and to delete all other windows
mr> on that frame. No command bound to `q' can restore any windows killed
mr> by the `delete-other-windows' call. So if `q' earlier restored the
mr> two-windows layout something strange must have happened. Maybe someone
mr> can clarify ...
It never did. I was hoping it would.
I was hoping to be able to see a man page and then have it go away
without side effects... Of course I never learned frames so I suppose
this is not a problem for most people.
I was also hoping to get a M-x compile command that would act like
'bully... I mentioned that in another bug.
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* bug#9641: Man-notify-method 'bully does not remember how windows were
2011-10-01 10:14 ` jidanni
@ 2011-10-01 10:58 ` martin rudalics
2011-09-30 22:26 ` bug#9640: compilation bully mode jidanni
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From: martin rudalics @ 2011-10-01 10:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jidanni; +Cc: 9641
> I was hoping to be able to see a man page and then have it go away
> without side effects... Of course I never learned frames so I suppose
> this is not a problem for most people.
Indeed. You could try by setting `pop-up-frames' to t and see whether
it breaks too many of your earlier editing habits. If it does, you
might want to add all relevant buffer names (or suitable regexps) to
`special-display-buffer-names' (`special-display-regexps') and look
whether that solves your problems.
> I was also hoping to get a M-x compile command that would act like
> 'bully... I mentioned that in another bug.
Same here. You don't really want to use the same frame. You want to
use another frame and that should intuitively work well for text-only
terminals too.
martin
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2011-09-30 22:29 bug#9641: Man-notify-method 'bully does not remember how windows were jidanni
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2011-10-01 10:14 ` jidanni
@ 2011-10-01 11:55 ` jidanni
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From: jidanni @ 2011-10-01 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rudalics; +Cc: 9641-done
>>>>> "mr" == martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:
mr> Indeed. You could try by setting `pop-up-frames' to t and see whether
Hmmm, aside from the scary flash upon the birth of the new window, I
think this is the greatest thing that has happened to me emacs-wise
since the 1980's. Speaking of which, here is a song,
* Devo - Speed Racer (1982-10-30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p07Pg5RZah0&list=PLF51D79F159020CC1
Thanks!
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