From: Sam Steingold <sds@gnu.org>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 12311@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#12311: (special-mode-map): Delete binding for `z'.
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:19:52 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fw712e87.fsf__1659.54782064563$1346563247$gmane$org@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <363C856A8EDB4545897D760AD952E828@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 1 Sep 2012 19:38:28 -0700")
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to gmane.emacs.devel as well.
> * Drew Adams <qerj.nqnzf@benpyr.pbz> [2012-09-01 19:38:28 -0700]:
>
>> I use this all the time in buffers like *Help*,
>
> Why bother to kill *Help*? Why do that rather than `q'?
because 'q' will eventually start showing old *Help* buffers.
because 'q' deletes the window which I want to keep.
>> *Dired* &c. What am I supposed to use instead? C-u q?
>
> Sure, why not? Or `q' if you don't need to kill it.
because C-u q is two keystrokes; quite often I keep hitting 'z' until I
get to a buffer where z self-inserts.
> Or `C-x v' if you want to replace it.
C-x v is the vc prefix for me.
> You want to kill Dired but you don't want to use `C-u q'.
> OK, so bind `z' to killing once again if you want to.
the question is whether this is a generally useful binding.
I think it is.
> Or is it about other special-mode buffers? That's the useful question, to me.
> I would say forget about *Help* (which doesn't need to be killed) and Dired
> (which you sometimes don't want to kill).
>
> But are there special-mode buffers where `z' killing the buffer is really
> useful? If so, then maybe the fix was too heavy-handed.
I don't think special-mode buffers are "precious" - they are easily
restored, so killing them accidentally should not be a problem.
Apparently others disagree.
>> How is a ding more valuable than a useful behavior?
>
> Killing the buffer is not the only or the most useful behavior `z'
> could have in Dired. Dired is a rich mode with lots of keys already
> taken and with plenty of commands that could be bound to keys.
So bind it in dired mode. The change affects all the other special modes!
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2012-09-02 5:19 ` Sam Steingold [this message]
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2012-09-02 13:39 ` bug#12311: (special-mode-map): Delete binding for `z' Drew Adams
2012-09-03 8:09 ` Chong Yidong
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