From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13546: 24.2.92; Error(s) when sending emails Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:40:59 -0500 Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=80_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=97=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87fw0esyb8.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <86ehh9mx93.fsf@somewhere.org> <86k3q9l8pt.fsf@somewhere.org> <86fw0x8fos.fsf@somewhere.org> <86mwv56tid.fsf@somewhere.org> <83a9r2rdze.fsf@gnu.org> <861uc4gk5z.fsf@somewhere.org> <86wqtu3v3x.fsf@somewhere.org> <86wqtt5vz6.fsf@somewhere.org> <868v69a1pf.fsf@somewhere.org> <83k3ptvy1c.fsf@gnu.org> <837glswhgf.fsf@gnu.org> <87y5e7s6fu.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k3prs0mg.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83y5e7ushu.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1362166924 21955 80.91.229.3 (1 Mar 2013 19:42:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 19:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13546@debbugs.gnu.org, wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 01 20:42:27 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UBVqa-0005E7-Lk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 20:42:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33223 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBVqF-0004pN-Jy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:42:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45719) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBVqC-0004pB-KX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:42:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBVqB-00074j-2y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:42:00 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53089) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBVqA-00074a-Um for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:41:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBVs9-0001VT-W4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:44:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ted Zlatanov Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 19:44:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13546 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13546-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13546.13621670295763 (code B ref 13546); Fri, 01 Mar 2013 19:44:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13546) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2013 19:43:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58552 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBVrx-0001Uu-62 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:43:49 -0500 Original-Received: from z.lifelogs.com ([173.255.230.239]:44706) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBVru-0001Um-2B for 13546@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:43:47 -0500 Original-Received: from heechee (c-65-96-148-157.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [65.96.148.157]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tzz) by z.lifelogs.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD5E320613; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 19:41:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: <83y5e7ushu.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 01 Mar 2013 16:03:41 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71994 Archived-At: On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 16:03:41 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Ted Zlatanov >> Cc: 13546@debbugs.gnu.org, wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com >> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 08:36:23 -0500 >> >> I didn't see this suggested: can you try from another platform besides W32? EZ> Unless you are thinking about a bug in GnuTLS, I don't see how this EZ> could help. The problem is quite clearly in the infrastructure used EZ> in the w32 build of Emacs. Any other platform will not have any EZ> comparable infrastructure, as they all use system-provided facilities EZ> like signals and pty's. I'd like to know that there's a working Emacs and a broken one, so we can do some differential analysis. Right now we're crossing our fingers that the latest pretest works. Also, if we can determine definitely that the problem only affects W32 as we have supposed so far, it makes the debugging easier and the problem less of a release blocker. I brought up GnuTLS because it's involved in some of Sebastian's setup, and it has special glue in Emacs for W32. As with my other suggestions, I'm just trying to do some differential analysis to see if there's some kind of bisection that will reduce the set of possible causes. But I agree with you that it's an unlikely cause... so I'll be quiet now :) Ted