From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16735: Not very useful "Keywords:" headers in some elpa packages Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:21:16 -0500 Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=80_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=97=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87fvnmg9gj.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> References: <8761ojgl59.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sirneykq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8761ojgl59.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sirneykq.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392315729 15768 80.91.229.3 (13 Feb 2014 18:22:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 18:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16735@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 13 19:22:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WE0vP-0007KX-NI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 19:22:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48282 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WE0vP-0000Gc-BB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:22:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38082) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WE0vH-0000GB-Pl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:22:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WE0vC-0000ck-U6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:22:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:49962) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WE0vC-0000cb-QH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:22:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WE0vC-0007Qh-Ea for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:22:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ted Zlatanov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 18:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16735 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16735-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16735.139231568128501 (code B ref 16735); Thu, 13 Feb 2014 18:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16735) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2014 18:21:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51144 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WE0uW-0007Pc-5l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:21:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qc0-f181.google.com ([209.85.216.181]:48276) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WE0uT-0007PK-DM for 16735@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:21:18 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id e9so18170153qcy.26 for <16735@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:21:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lifelogs.com; s=google; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=VCmCQ8PgMEEduq5GnvJr3mREbDkdFQgVJXRHGlGE7LI=; b=XxSpInSex1D9QWKfzp9GRIQhqH3kkwv52LhowdvRfzKBbh+PdFf6d3WVZVCrsQ/oIB qbPjEmuPvrLz7zUGfpd6wNH0CJNK9CNbFvhE+CmWR3DNvEVfOqLCCN03+6fLxK/2Duxw Pz5LFJaDw5PX5uNeAsJgDf4x3zY8zOSVm6wf4= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references :mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=VCmCQ8PgMEEduq5GnvJr3mREbDkdFQgVJXRHGlGE7LI=; b=PhjycJe5LnaA10HgPqyJwTRYHlxR1bKXGpD2YZgti2Zxulfb0H6dW95SCb8ZsxM49x yF/fdAko6vOzQRY6l/xrfHlrG54PLTqENNrC1Hj+9mOojjIiL8rNzI6/IA3+frY/OSgW SGhR5/oIewY2s2sgOk8SJTTfsmNx0QmL3GfyAXw+pFEB8VqmcEMPENbKhUYhECI/rGTE bHtH0dgcDBdoqqWMhPkKhPo9ch8spj8teaNlPjuJPr2s3LZXHVvRJ63+ymb/IphAoajr IPL99cxal29khbIYUl2m3cVDcaj1e6/QufZMiYB2wyH4owunWVTSteo19tYjDRlp/Rsc 0/lw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk9OU7usiJFvJtlr7s1HhCuDtcevuXM0WxlXXVIeyHvuZWW132OAUlOSOsrqfirsWdzg18O X-Received: by 10.140.86.51 with SMTP id o48mr4698694qgd.67.1392315665235; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:21:05 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from flea (c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. [98.229.61.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b14sm7548812qac.17.2014.02.13.10.21.04 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:21:04 -0800 (PST) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:08:32 -0500, Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:05:22 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85505 Archived-At: On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:08:32 -0500 Glenn Morris wrote: GM> Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> Keywords is supposed to match the finder keywords. GM> Is it? Exclusively? GM> I used to think that, but I don't even know any more... GM> So many people use it for random "here's a list of any word I could GM> think of that is even vaguely related to this file". I know, so I'm saying let's give them a new "Tags" header for that purpose and gently encourage them to start using it. >> Authors want a way to tag their packages with arbitrary keywords = >> tags. GM> Calendar uses "Human-Keywords" for that, but no-one else does AFAICS. GM> IMO it is a shame "Keywords" was not called "Finder-Keywords" from the GM> start, if that is really what it was supposed to be. Yes, I agree. GM> Anyway, all I was hoping to get from this bug report is that Someone GM> would add the relevant finder keywords (languages, etc) to elpa.gnu.org GM> packages that lack them. I can do it, but in the process would like to start using Tags. Then we have something to offer the authors so their intended tags (which presumably are valuable) are not lost. On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:05:22 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Keywords is supposed to match the finder keywords. SM> No, they don't have to. But it's a good idea if they do. Right. SM> And same would hold for "Tag". Why should it? It would be a new header, intended for arbitrary strings, with no baggage. IOW you'd see Keywords: language Tags: mustache,handlebars Does that make sense? Ted