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From: Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net>
To: 17959@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#17959: support accessing FTP services via HTTP proxies
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:40:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fvbfy8xv.fsf@violet.siamics.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877fxricgb.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> (Ivan Shmakov's message of "Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:09:24 +0000")

	Alternatively, one may question of why the guard was necessary
	in the code in the first place?

	Scanning through the url*.el code, I’ve found that there’re
	certain differences in handling URIs.  Namely, while some URI
	scheme handlers (like http:) retrieve a document when a URI is
	referenced, others (like irc:) instead call some “third-party”
	code, and there’s also a group (news:, file:, ftp:) of handlers
	which follow either of these ways depending on specific
	conditions.

	And in the case of FTP, – the condition upon which no document
	is retrieved is: the URI in question refers to a directory.

	The differences are due to the fact that while some URIs (say,
	news:877fxricgb.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net or
	http://example.com/) refer to certain /documents,/ there’re also
	URIs which are unlikely to ever denote anything like that (think
	of, say, geo:20,15.)

	Thus, my suggestion would be to:

	• allow the caller of the url*.el facilities to explicitly state
	  whether it’s interested in a document to be returned, in some
	  code to be called, or either;

	• in the ‘url-file’ function, – return a document of some form
	  (possibly the unprocessed output of the respective FTP
	  command) when given a URI which refers to a directory, – if so
	  is the preference of the caller;

	• (not directly related to this bug) adjust ‘url-news’ (and
	  possibly others) behavior similarly, perhaps going as far as
	  allowing the caller to specify its preferences regarding the
	  representation for such a document, – in the spirit of the
	  HTTP Accept: header.

	I guess all of the above warrant separate bug reports, which I
	hope to file shortly.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-12 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-06 19:15 bug#17959: eww: FTP is not supported; but with ftp_proxy, it is Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-04 16:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-10 21:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19  8:04   ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-19 17:24     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-16 20:09     ` bug#17959: support accessing FTP services via HTTP proxies Ivan Shmakov
2015-01-12 21:40       ` Ivan Shmakov [this message]
2015-02-09 16:55         ` bug#19822: url-retrieve: allow to fail when no document is associated with the URI Ivan Shmakov
2015-12-25 19:00           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-28 22:07             ` Ted Zlatanov
     [not found]             ` <87fuym1b2r.fsf@lifelogs.com>
2015-12-28 22:30               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]           ` <87r3iawdyl.fsf@gnus.org>
2015-12-25 23:47             ` Drew Adams
2019-09-30  1:03           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30  5:47             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-09-30  7:21               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-30  7:30                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-09-30  8:22                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-30 14:40                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-09-30 15:05                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01 13:19                       ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-01 13:37                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01 13:44                           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-01 14:51                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01 15:13                               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-01 15:24                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-01 13:56                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-01 14:06                           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-01 14:24                             ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-01 15:13                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-01 16:07                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2015-02-09 17:04         ` bug#17959: support accessing FTP services via HTTP proxies Ivan Shmakov

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