From: Benjamin Riefenstahl <b.riefenstahl@turtle-trading.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: nimawebgard@gmail.com, 28339@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#28339: 25.2; Emacs shows ZWNJ character (Zero Width non-Joiner) as Space
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 20:05:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fubmy0ws.fsf@blei.turtle-trading.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83r2v6k09t.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 16 Sep 2017 20:42:54 +0300")
>> From: Benjamin Riefenstahl <b.riefenstahl@turtle-trading.net>
>> I thought that with OpenType at least that depends on the font?
Eli Zaretskii writes:
> It does, but Handa-san seems to say that even the best fonts don't
> consider ZWNJ part of any grapheme cluster, and always leave it alone.
It breaks shaping and ligatures, so the result is not a cluster by
definition, I think. To the contrary, it breaks the cluster. Or maybe
the terminology confuses me.
>> For editing, I would like a hair-line type glyph to delete.
>
> We already have a solution for deleting a character which was composed
> with the preceding one(s). So I think this aspects doesn't have to be
> a factor in our decision how to display ZWNJ.
What I mean is, I would want to see something that I can delete (and
re-add) on its own, with the only other conseqence that the neighboring
characters change shape.
>> * Hightlighting ZWNJ in read-only text while searching for it with
>> incremental search.
>
> In general, search should ignore ZWNJ and similar controls, at least
> the "folding" search.
I was thinking about searching explicitly for ZWNJ, e.g. to find and
delete wrong uses, or to find out how another auther has achieved a
particular effect.
>> * User-specified replacement via display tables.
>
> We already have the glyphless-char-display-control feature for that.
Right, I was thinking, if I wanted to implement ZWNJ as a glyph and I
did not want to rely on the font to provide a glyph, I would create my
own glyph and use that. But I would want the user to be able to replace
it.
benny
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-03 15:57 bug#28339: 25.2; Emacs shows ZWNJ character (Zero Width non-Joiner) as Space Nima Aryan
2017-09-03 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-03 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-03 19:31 ` Nima Aryan
2017-09-04 4:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-04 5:05 ` sadid sahami
2017-09-04 9:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-04 11:43 ` Nima Aryan
2017-09-04 11:49 ` Nima Aryan
2017-09-04 12:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-06 23:25 ` handa
2017-09-07 2:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <CALp2H_0RgoW6NL-N3yLA_io38-y8noymU4gGwEbLGcDV4AX9_g@mail.gmail.com>
2017-09-10 23:08 ` handa
2017-09-11 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-13 14:06 ` handa
2017-09-13 15:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-14 12:24 ` handa
2017-09-14 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-16 1:32 ` handa
2017-09-16 4:05 ` Nima Aryan
2017-09-16 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-16 17:30 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2017-09-16 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-16 18:05 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl [this message]
2017-09-16 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-16 18:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-18 1:52 ` handa
2017-09-18 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-19 12:18 ` handa
2017-09-20 7:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-18 15:22 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2017-09-14 21:13 ` Nima Aryan
[not found] ` <CALp2H_2w50RrBiaWV1dpg760cUpamy1nZdRgrwJKAjESq3no3Q@mail.gmail.com>
2017-09-13 14:02 ` handa
[not found] ` <CALp2H_3tLC71X6-jvH2XD-6qX8O=KE5wHa561QPk-w2OoCX9HA@mail.gmail.com>
2017-09-16 12:36 ` handa
[not found] ` <CALp2H_2MWgjoEEm6Rp5+5uOdMk-RbFWzaCrweo=pbdzAaq8btA@mail.gmail.com>
2017-10-06 10:05 ` handa
2017-10-06 12:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-10-07 1:11 ` handa
2020-09-04 5:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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