From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33383: 26; `count-words-region' Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:42:34 +0200 Message-ID: <87ftne5adh.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> References: <67fda5a6-8217-47ee-ae7f-fde4427433e0@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="80695"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 33383@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 10 14:43:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hlBwF-000KrJ-BG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:43:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60824 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlBwD-0003Gk-UA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:43:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35932) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlBw7-0003GL-L0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:43:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hlBw6-0002yj-Ke for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:43:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54430) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hlBw6-0002yA-Gt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlBw6-0006SX-CJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:43:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33383 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 33383-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33383.156276256024789 (code B ref 33383); Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:43:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 33383) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2019 12:42:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35015 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlBvk-0006Rl-66 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:42:40 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:36948) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlBvi-0006Rd-P5 for 33383@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 08:42:39 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hlBve-0000Jx-IX; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:42:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <67fda5a6-8217-47ee-ae7f-fde4427433e0@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 14 Nov 2018 07:47:27 -0800 (PST)") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:162623 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > Please consider a minor enhancement: Change the message from this: > > (count-words--message "Region" start end) to this: > > (count-words--message > (if (use-region-p) "Active region" "Inactive region") > start > end) > > It's not so obvious that the report is for the region even when > inactive, and many Emacs users will nowadays think of the region only as > the active region. So if the region is inactive and they see a non-zero > number they might wonder (and need to consult the doc string to > understand). I think this command is the wrong place to teach people about what a region is, and how it pertains to the "active region mode" (which I think uses unfortunate terminology, but that's a different matter). So I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no