From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#34289: Mention why killed groups come back anyway next time one starts gnus Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 08:17:28 +0800 Message-ID: <87ftndxw4n.5.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87lg30xrvt.fsf@jidanni.org> <8736k1cdjg.2.fsf@jidanni.org> <87zhlntfiq.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <87lfx7w78m.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="261649"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 34289@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 11 03:24:17 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hlNol-0015u4-7R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 03:24:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37948 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlNok-0000MP-6o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 21:24:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37413) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlNob-0000Iz-75 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 21:24:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hlNoa-0000im-At for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 21:24:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:56270) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hlNoa-0000ib-7N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 21:24:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlNoa-0008Kf-0E; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 21:24:04 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87lg30xrvt.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 01:24:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34289 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 34289-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34289.156280819631890 (code B ref 34289); Thu, 11 Jul 2019 01:24:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 34289) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2019 01:23:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36841 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlNno-0008IH-A5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 21:23:16 -0400 Original-Received: from bird.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.17]:40674) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hlNnk-0008I5-Aq for 34289@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 21:23:14 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Original-Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE176A22C3; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 01:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a96.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-1-113.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.1.113]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9F9C46A2285; Thu, 11 Jul 2019 01:23:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a96.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.17.3); Thu, 11 Jul 2019 01:23:10 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Abaft-Ruddy: 08d80669266e829e_1562808189921_394585744 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1562808189920:2148701415 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1562808189920 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a96.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a96.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1992480751; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 18:23:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=6GW0YoWjTNAzIjbgoX+vj7nDEvU=; b=YHrHKZNkIIFLQ XMbHs0U7j3KpMxMouFuQX98VZ94RCm4GwyRAtnSfzwKD0gO5Cc9vWiBQARBMRkci YLmdLLta/pzsKtmJm5Ep7B7Lejj7Q57QPbexuwJGCv8I1ypkovEIwpXbuIlkTE0+ aSYbRtINSUwKhpSkPEbkc3btn6l3M0= Original-Received: from jidanni.org (114-46-58-152.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.46.58.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a96.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3952E80758; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 18:23:03 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a96 X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduvddrgeejgdeghecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvffufhffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecukfhppeduudegrdegiedrheekrdduhedvnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddugedrgeeirdehkedrudehvddprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheppeeruhhtfhdqkeerueerheeimhfphefnihehhegsveekreepucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhnrhgtphhtthhopeefgedvkeelseguvggssghughhsrdhgnhhurdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:162674 Archived-At: LI> I think the doc string warns about that. And there's no way to get rid LI> of groups forever for real; that's not how NNTP works. I was using only various mailboxes / folders, not NNTP.