From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14321: Documentation doesn't refer to set-scroll-bar-mode Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:07:38 -0700 Message-ID: <87ftm310f9.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="180382"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 14321@debbugs.gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jos=C3=A9?= Luis =?UTF-8?Q?Gonz=C3=A1lez?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 15 07:08:13 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zg-000kpe-W9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 07:08:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38426 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zf-0007AL-RQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:08:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40887) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zX-00076Q-SM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:08:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zW-0002Lw-OB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:08:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:41555) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zW-0002Lr-LC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zW-0005zN-Dy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:08:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 05:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14321 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 14321-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14321.156584566922987 (code B ref 14321); Thu, 15 Aug 2019 05:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14321) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2019 05:07:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50373 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zI-0005yg-1X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:07:49 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:35260) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zF-0005yU-N2 for 14321@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:07:46 -0400 Original-Received: from 24-104-73-23-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([24.104.73.23] helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zB-00082b-Cu; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 07:07:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: ("=?UTF-8?Q?Jos=C3=A9?= Luis =?UTF-8?Q?Gonz=C3=A1lez?="'s message of "Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:36:24 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:165047 Archived-At: "Jos=C3=A9 Luis Gonz=C3=A1lez" writes: > Info documentation for emacs 24.2.1 instructs in section "21.22 Scroll Ba= rs" > that "To control the use of scroll bars at startup, customize the variable > `scroll-bar-mode'." However it fails to mention that it must be done by > calling set-scroll-bar-mode, since directly setting the variable has no r= eal > effect. This is explained in the built-in documentation for the variable,= but > not in the Info documentation. (I'm going through old bug reports that have unfortunately gotten no responses yet.) As the doc string also says: --- Setting the variable with a customization buffer also takes effect. --- So I think the manual is correct here, although it uses "customize the variable" in one specific sense; i.e., you have to use Customize -- you can't just set it with `setq' or the like. I've added a link to the Customization node here as a further hint in Emacs 27. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no