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From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: "J.P." <jp@neverwas.me>
Cc: 51342@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#51342: 29.0.50; remove non-CAPs from rcirc capability list
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 18:10:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fsryehfx.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r1caseo5.fsf@neverwas.me> (J. P.'s message of "Sun, 24 Oct 2021 07:03:38 -0700")


(Sorry that it took me a while to respond)

"J.P." <jp@neverwas.me> writes:

> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:
>
>> What confuses me is how standard-replies doesn't have to be requested.
>> message-ids is clear, because they rely on message-tags and if a that is
>> provided, sending message IDs even if they were not requested wouldn't
>> pose any issues.  The thing is that standard-replies introduces new
>> types, that the client must be able to parse.  Just sending them to any
>> non IRCv3-capable client would presumable confuse it.  From reading the
>> spec, I don't immediately see that it says the capability should be
>> requested.  Could you explain this?
>
> Standard replies are quite mysterious. From what I can gather:
>
>   - Future extensions are to favor this form of reply whenever possible.
>   - These *aren't* for recasting existing replies.
>
> So there's no need to explicitly request them because support is implied
> when asking for an extension that uses them, much like with message IDs.

I understand the issue, but am still hesitant. If this is vague, then it
seems better to err on the side of safety and request a message even if
the request constitutes a noop. Or are there any real downsides to being
more explicit?

-- 
	Philip Kaludercic





  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-14 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-23  0:08 bug#51342: 29.0.50; remove non-CAPs from rcirc capability list J.P.
2021-10-23  1:59 ` J.P.
2021-10-24 10:05 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-24 14:03   ` J.P.
2021-10-26  3:50     ` J.P.
2021-11-14 18:10     ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2021-11-14 23:07       ` J.P.
2021-11-17 20:22         ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-13 14:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-13 18:30   ` J.P.
     [not found] ` <877d15yxun.fsf@neverwas.me>
2022-10-12 13:36   ` J.P.

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