From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38143: 27.0.50; Say that before-make-frame-hook & after-make-frame-functions are not invoked for the initial frame Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 21:17:01 +0100 Message-ID: <87fsr6q01u.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87mud5ivou.fsf@telefonica.net> <83a7959z7i.fsf@gnu.org> <87imnthsnv.fsf@telefonica.net> <87ee6ru4l4.fsf@gnus.org> <83bl1v4c4r.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11148"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, 38143@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 05 21:18:29 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mtxxr-0002k2-Ks for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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OK; reverted. Has this changed since the bug was reported? > Perhaps the bug report was using "initial frame" in another sense: to > allude to the frame we create in temacs, which is a terminal frame, > normally deleted when a GUI session starts, except in a daemon, which > keeps it. But in that case, these changes will confuse the heck out > of the users who will read them and try to figure out how to use this > information. We should in that case explain in the doc strings which > "initial frame" we allude to here. I think we need some input from the bug reported about what they meant by "initial frame" here. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no