From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53070: 27.2; Message "Server closed connection" not verbose enough Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 08:13:42 -0800 Message-ID: <87fspza5hl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87o84nhq0j.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3870"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 53070@debbugs.gnu.org To: Tim Landscheidt Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 07 17:14:29 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n5rsr-0000hR-Ln for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 17:14:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58376 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5rsq-0004Le-LK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 11:14:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57550) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5rsU-0004LT-Gm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 11:14:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:52853) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5rsQ-0002Xp-6p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 11:14:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5rsP-0001xE-OX; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 11:14:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 16:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53070 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus Original-Received: via spool by 53070-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53070.16415720327487 (code B ref 53070); Fri, 07 Jan 2022 16:14:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53070) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2022 16:13:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45755 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5rsG-0001wh-L7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 11:13:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:51220) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5rsF-0001wV-Cz for 53070@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 11:13:51 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 91D0110117B; Fri, 7 Jan 2022 16:13:44 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1641572024; bh=Hqq+3+YDuRLF5IKrSZg6J3C2981+/wLu95RPiQEz2BA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=ZOW/WTbqu9D6jO3zSWAl6Bogdz8FDOZWjSNGqtHvQbwWSST5rukyyE/OqY13BLBAG uNsgcVRPw8j9syTCh7shK3eKTR7nftuAlvTxRqFKmyfGy8LXCkTyPgyJrxh9VxxcGh FqvrbDd7ckfH7pwAPPWyvJtPyGiWy11hK1d+fRHU= In-Reply-To: <87o84nhq0j.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> (Tim Landscheidt's message of "Fri, 07 Jan 2022 09:08:28 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:223801 Archived-At: Tim Landscheidt writes: [...] > It would be more helpful if the error message read "Server > news.gmane.io closed connection" or, to avoid any ambiguity, > "NNTP server news.gmane.io closed connection". Thank you for reporting this, and I think Robert's patch would be very welcome. > (Side note: If such a hiccup happens, it sometimes appears > that the *Group* buffer is not updated with regard to number > of unread messages per group, etc. for /other/ servers that > were successfully contacted. I don't know if Gnus is more > aggressive than it needs to be here; if it encounters an er- > ror when trying to contact a POP3 server, it will just ask > nicely and continue on.) How recent is your Emacs? In 032969e8 (end of October) I put in a patch which switched NNTP failures from raising an error -- which interrupted the whole update process -- to simply reporting the failure. What you describe sounds like the behavior I'd observed before making that change.