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From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, larsi@gnus.org, 55832@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#55832: 28.1; Emacs crashes when using tramp from helm in emacs-29
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2022 21:27:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fskbgfv7.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k09nvhmc.fsf@posteo.net> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Sat,  11 Jun 2022 06:14:02 +0000")

Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net> writes:

Hi Thierry,

> Ah ok, I noticed I have always in ~/.emacs.d/tramp an UNKNOW entry for
> uid and gid, is it normal?

When the remote uid or gid cannot be determined, Tramp sets the default
value "UNKNOWN" (for the uid-string resp. remote-gid property), and -1
(for the uid-integer resp. gid-integer property). See
tramp-unknown-id-string and tramp-unknown-id-integer.

However, I would be surprised if these values are used for a "sudo"
connection. Checking my own ~/.emacs.d/tramp I find such entries,
indeed, for a "sudo" connection. Very strange. But although incorrect,
they haven't disturbed my use of Tramp.

After exiting Emacs, deleting ~/.emacs.d/tramp, and starting Emacs again
with a "sudo" connection, there arer proper values "root" and 0 in the
cached properties. Hmm, don't know where these values came from in
history, but I don't believe they should disturb Tramp. But who
knows. Perhaps you move the ~/.emacs.d/tramp file away (in order to use
it later if necessary), start a new Emacs instance, and see, whether it
still crashes with your scenario.

>> Sad. Since I cannot reproduce the problem locally, what happens if you
>> invoke "emacs -Q" similar to how I've done?
>
> I can't reproduce the crash using helm -P path/to/emacs though there is
> not much difference with my helm-find-files config, the difference comes
> I guess from the usage of normal emacs (or possibly only -q) and emacs
> -Q which affect tramp in some ways.
>
> What I would like to understand is why the crash appears AFTER
> tramp-cleanup-all-connections and not before on first shot.

Also a mystery to me.

If the removing of the ~/.emacs.d/tramp file does not help, you might
try the following settings:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq tramp-verbose 10 tramp-debug-to-file t)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

This increases the Tramp debug messages volume, and writes those
messages to disk at /tmp as they appear, under a file name like the
Tramp debug buffer name. So we have something to analyze even after
crash.

Well, reading the Helm sources, you'll better with setting
helm-tramp-verbose.

Best regards, Michael.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-11 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-07 15:16 bug#55832: 28.1; Emacs crashes when using tramp from helm in emacs-29 Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-07 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-07 17:02   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-07 17:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-07 18:33       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-07 18:53         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-07 19:20   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-08 13:01     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-06-08 16:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-08 18:17       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-08 18:25         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 10:34           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-09 10:42           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-09 13:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 15:18               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-09 15:29                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-09 16:36                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 16:51                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-09 17:48                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09 18:28                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-09 18:55                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10  7:53                           ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-10 10:00                             ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-10 12:20                               ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-11  6:14                                 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-11 19:27                                   ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2022-06-11 19:46                                     ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-11 20:07                                       ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-11 20:12                                         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-12 18:16                                         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-14 11:39                                           ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-14 11:49                                             ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-09 15:37               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-14 11:05 ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-14 11:36   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-14 11:44     ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-14 17:42 ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-16 17:27 ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-16 18:11   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-17 16:54     ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-17 17:10       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-19 14:25         ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-19 16:21           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2022-06-19 17:51             ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-21  8:24             ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-21  9:35               ` Thierry Volpiatto

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