From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64735: 29.0.92; find invocations are ~15x slower because of ignores Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 16:43:31 +0000 Message-ID: <87fs5hp64s.fsf@localhost> References: <87lefapkdx.fsf@localhost> <831qh230h5.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmyu8mi0.fsf@localhost> <83wmyu1l1k.fsf@gnu.org> <87fs5hemi1.fsf@gmx.de> <83edl11qzn.fsf@gnu.org> <874jlxebz5.fsf@gmx.de> <87lef9mqio.fsf@localhost> <87edl1scbw.fsf@gmx.de> <87fs5hmp6i.fsf@localhost> <87cz0lmoxy.fsf@localhost> <83v8edzb31.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0p1cta3.fsf@gmx.de> <87pm4ll7ox.fsf@localhost> <87a5vpcmc7.fsf@gmx.de> <878rb9l1f5.fsf@localhost> <87zg3pb6yt.fsf@gmx.de> <83zg3p9s39.fsf@gnu.org> <878rb944wi.fsf@localhost> <83tttx9q4v.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21582"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, michael.albinus@gmx.de, 64735@debbugs.gnu.org, sbaugh@janestreet.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 21 18:44:36 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qMtF5-0005RS-L6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 18:44:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qMtEg-0007Rq-1f; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:44:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qMtEY-0007Qg-DE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:44:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qMtEY-0006At-5a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:44:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qMtEY-0007GG-1Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:44:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 16:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64735 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64735-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64735.168995780927860 (code B ref 64735); Fri, 21 Jul 2023 16:44:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64735) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2023 16:43:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34756 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qMtE0-0007FI-Nj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:43:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:58499) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qMtDw-0007Ew-TC for 64735@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 12:43:27 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F4062240103 for <64735@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 18:43:18 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1689957799; bh=cdXSD+R+tj+Uy4EfRAZSd/RBzmT4HE4W8XTDPRozTEM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=YxRWId09knQZngm75QHnD89Ya2o4PrOXIBIH97Gx2+ZXDeZeWgL7kks6lT/TbaqlA HAFXOM0ZNdg613jF9imoAC8KjgfoS8NWUAr2nHH19A5iD68vHUiozIcdIFZXGuJ6Dp jOQrgYV25r3ZL+5+aBkzMvxc63ixoM3xuAPL9ohJHR6WGX5Iy7mDeW9b8Rn0k+WtOO QzVDkLM22yjdg2VWfScIXdsgq8Cq0hqOKZ5l8vGLMf1R9nOPdI+j361u1qkH4fQG0y HAqht8iU0IVf/+becNU1O6Exw7mTxyTxaz41qHx9wZR2cZ/EfPJy28L/U35IQd8g7w kh9x+B+agfeQQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4R6wNQ3MCNz9rxV; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 18:43:18 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83tttx9q4v.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:265747 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Disabling file-name-handlers is the wrong way to solve these > performance problems. We are in agreement here. Note that I am talking about optimization. And Michael proposed to provide a way for disabling only the tramp-related handlers, when it is appropriate. >> I am pretty sure that file name handlers are checked behind the scenes >> by many other common operations. > > I'm pretty sure they aren't. But every file-related primitive calls > expand-file-name (it must, by virtue of the Emacs paradigm whereby > each buffer "lives" in a different directory), and that's what you > see, by and large. The end result is the same - file handlers are searched very frequently any time Emacs file API is used. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at