From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattias.engdegard@gmail.com>, 70784@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#70784: Abolish string resizing
Date: Mon, 06 May 2024 12:41:59 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fruv5z6w.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv34qv65a7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 05 May 2024 22:41:54 -0400")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> Actually, it's not "immemorial", it's just old:
>
> commit 3c9de1afcde82a99137721436c822059cce79b5b
> Author: Kenichi Handa <handa@gnu.org>
> Date: Fri Jul 21 06:45:30 2000 +0000
That's _23_, approaching 24 years, in the past, or 1 generation exactly.
To put this into perspective, a mere 2 years and 7 months after the
introduction of multibyte strings.
>
> (Faset): Allow storing any multibyte character in a string. Convert
> unibyte string to multibyte if necessary.
>
> IOW, since Emacs-21.1.
Only two releases after the distinction between multibyte and unibyte
strings was introduced. Evidently, this departure from traditional
array behavior was seen as a misdesign at the time, and we should know
better than to second-guess old design decisions, especially those from
a past when computer memory and performance were far scarcer commodities
than today.
> As for improvements, like a lot of refactoring and maintenance work,
> there isn't any immediate benefit. But it's a "feature" which is *very*
> rarely used (thank god: it makes a notionally constant time operation
> take time proportional to the size of the string, so if it were used
> often we would have heard complaints about the poor performance) and
> which imposes pretty significant implementation constraints, so it's
> definitely detrimental to long term evolution.
Placing quotation marks around the word "feature" does not make it any
less of a feature, and if reports of performance woes be the judge of
whether a feature is sufficiently disused to justify removal, then, why,
virtually all (vastly underreported) sub-optimal code in Emacs would be
eligible for immediate deletion attended by irritating pop-up warnings.
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-05 12:33 bug#70784: Abolish string resizing Mattias Engdegård
2024-05-05 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05 14:18 ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-05-05 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05 16:55 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-05 17:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05 18:09 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-05 18:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05 20:08 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 1:01 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 6:02 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-05-08 23:25 ` Richard Stallman
2024-05-08 23:24 ` Richard Stallman
2024-05-09 1:14 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-26 9:02 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-05-26 9:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-26 18:03 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-26 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-27 3:42 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-28 2:23 ` Richard Stallman
2024-05-05 18:09 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-05 20:24 ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-05-05 21:14 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-11 15:20 ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-05-11 16:21 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-15 17:30 ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-05-15 17:47 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-15 19:35 ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-05-25 11:24 ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-05-25 11:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-25 13:01 ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-05-06 0:53 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 1:56 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 11:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-06 12:29 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-07 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-07 13:41 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 2:41 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 4:41 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2024-05-06 10:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-06 11:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-06 12:23 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-07 11:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 23:25 ` Richard Stallman
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