From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12621: Emacs 24.1 crashing on Windows 7 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:03:56 -0100 Message-ID: <87ehipxwmr.fsf@yandex.ru> References: <1355394162.15171.YahooMailNeo@web171306.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <83ip85omkv.fsf@gnu.org> <1355424070.10437.YahooMailNeo@web171305.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <82hanognh8.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <83obhvn31t.fsf@gnu.org> <50CCE17A.3040402@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1355709902 4488 80.91.229.3 (17 Dec 2012 02:05:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12621@debbugs.gnu.org, andrewjmoreton@gmail.com To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 17 03:05:16 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TkQ4s-00077U-Uv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 03:05:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37702 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkQ4f-0000rt-N0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:04:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47456) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkQ4b-0000rm-0h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:04:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkQ4Y-0002XZ-GM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:04:52 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35663) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkQ4Y-0002XT-CD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:04:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TkQ5i-00071l-2H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:06:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dmitry Gutov Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12621 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12621-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12621.135570991326922 (code B ref 12621); Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12621) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2012 02:05:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45914 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TkQ4u-000709-A8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:05:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com ([209.85.215.44]:53513) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TkQ4r-0006zy-Qy for 12621@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:05:11 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id d3so5023989lah.3 for <12621@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:03:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=z/IssTuPKsIGVZSjSrxvhI41+MsTbt3OqCZ3/qTo9Eo=; b=dLT1z262munQ3sR9EL0fd/JbbfDwQUTV2LmG5l74NFonxsYMJUkt9GCBHJy+5X+tNM AkHu6WIO4OcWTA8EG/gxHNWFIyG5x0rGXQMthM/+Qt+dxlCf/9T14TF7MUhigemUEZzl wFlO2Q/qA9aQaIhocKkECeFGBVyx+J+10nEi87dG7mabdyxvi+YswAWsrIhupbTAcdY9 CGzWq/RvjAgzeFLi6Q9VwNMFg6W84NMh5PzVkHxDVtwGbNbEc27z+Hzb2NCmX1w4Siep DZOPraqYwCcm6cbSMfTcrzm5gV0aF5EPRBzj7Aan6DP6rp9XX4JmyB1Svgpn4Ze9zhDP UpxQ== Original-Received: by 10.112.25.100 with SMTP id b4mr5000663lbg.37.1355709835395; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:03:55 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from SOL ([178.252.98.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hc20sm2013538lab.11.2012.12.16.18.03.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:03:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:23:35 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:68626 Archived-At: Hello Mr. Stallman, Richard Stallman writes: > You've made a false accusation when you call my criticisms of Windows > "FUD". The references for these criticisms are in > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/digital-inclusion-in-freedom.html. > > You can't have had any evidence for your false accusation. You must > have leaped to the conclusion. This bespeaks hostility towards me. I think the burden of proof is on you here. You said that Windows contains spyware, DRM and backdoors, and only presented an article that discusses the DRM. Even if you consider DRM a form of spyware (which is debatable), you original phrasing implies that Windows contains some other kinds of spyware and backdoors, too. > You also try to excuse the DRM in Windows on the grounds that DRM is > so common. That is bogus -- DRM is never excusable. DRM is an > injustice to the user as well as an attack on free software. > This bespeaks opposition to our goals. > > This is the second time you have attacked me on this list. Your > technical contributions are useful, but they don't excuse your > hostility. If you want to attack me, do it on gnu-misc-discuss or > some non-GNU forum -- not here, on a GNU Project working list. --Dmitry