From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16998: with-slots should expand to cl-symbol-macrolet Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 23:52:59 +0100 Message-ID: <87eh273u7o.fsf@engster.org> References: <87r467pkd9.fsf@bernoul.li> <87iorj47r3.fsf@engster.org> <5320DBE6.3020706@siege-engine.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1394664851 15311 80.91.229.3 (12 Mar 2014 22:54:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 22:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jonas Bernoulli , 16998@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Eric M. 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Ludlam's message of "Wed, 12 Mar 2014 18:12:54 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:86798 Archived-At: Eric M. Ludlam writes: > On 03/12/2014 02:00 PM, David Engster wrote: >> However, I think that there's no problem to "officially" state that >> EIEIO development now happens in Emacs, and that the version in CEDET >> will not get updated anymore, but will remain there as a fallback >> library for older Emacsen (similar to what Gnus does). >> >> Eric, would you be OK with that? That would allow us to update the >> built-in EIEIO to current Emacs coding standards without breaking >> CEDET-from-bzr on older Emacsen. > > This proposal is fine by me. Short term we will just need to find a > good way to have standalone CEDET bootstrap in with either the Emacs > version, or with the one in CEDET. Yes. I'd move EIEIO upstream in some 'fallback-libs' directory or similar, and put this in load-path when Emacs version is <23.4 during compilation as well as when CEDET is loaded. > Eventually this will become unnecessary. Yes. Our minimum version currently is 23.2, and as long as it does not become too painful, there's no need to bump it. > The CEDET bootstrapping still cares about some features missing from > Emacs (according to the comments) such as: > > ;; Currently, Emacs proper doesn't track EIEIO methods. Until it > ;; does, we have to advice `describe-variable' and `describe-function' > ;; for EIEIO methods to get better help buffers. > > and > > ;; This adds further formatting and hyperlinks. > (add-hook 'temp-buffer-show-hook 'eieio-help-mode-augmentation-maybee t) Actually, that feature will be part of the upcoming 24.4 release, so it won't be needed there. > I think we will just need to check the Emacs version, and change how > we bootstrap and compile. I'm interested in any advice on this. I don't think this should be too difficult, but if it turns out to be a nightmare, I think we could bump the minimum version to 23.4 without alienating too many people... -David