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From: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
To: "Eric M. Ludlam" <eric@siege-engine.com>
Cc: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@bernoul.li>, 16998@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#16998: with-slots should expand to cl-symbol-macrolet
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 23:52:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eh273u7o.fsf@engster.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5320DBE6.3020706@siege-engine.com> (Eric M. Ludlam's message of "Wed, 12 Mar 2014 18:12:54 -0400")

Eric M. Ludlam writes:
> On 03/12/2014 02:00 PM, David Engster wrote:
>> However, I think that there's no problem to "officially" state that
>> EIEIO development now happens in Emacs, and that the version in CEDET
>> will not get updated anymore, but will remain there as a fallback
>> library for older Emacsen (similar to what Gnus does).
>>
>> Eric, would you be OK with that? That would allow us to update the
>> built-in EIEIO to current Emacs coding standards without breaking
>> CEDET-from-bzr on older Emacsen.
>
> This proposal is fine by me.  Short term we will just need to find a
> good way to have standalone CEDET bootstrap in with either the Emacs
> version, or with the one in CEDET.

Yes. I'd move EIEIO upstream in some 'fallback-libs' directory or
similar, and put this in load-path when Emacs version is <23.4 during
compilation as well as when CEDET is loaded.

>   Eventually this will become unnecessary.

Yes. Our minimum version currently is 23.2, and as long as it does not
become too painful, there's no need to bump it.

> The CEDET bootstrapping still cares about some features missing from
> Emacs (according to the comments) such as:
>
>   ;; Currently, Emacs proper doesn't track EIEIO methods.  Until it
>   ;; does, we have to advice `describe-variable' and `describe-function'
>   ;; for EIEIO methods to get better help buffers.
>
>  and
>
>   ;; This adds further formatting and hyperlinks.
>   (add-hook 'temp-buffer-show-hook 'eieio-help-mode-augmentation-maybee t)

Actually, that feature will be part of the upcoming 24.4 release, so it
won't be needed there.

> I think we will just need to check the Emacs version, and change how
> we bootstrap and compile.  I'm interested in any advice on this.

I don't think this should be too difficult, but if it turns out to be a
nightmare, I think we could bump the minimum version to 23.4 without
alienating too many people...

-David





  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-12 22:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-12 14:22 bug#16998: with-slots should expand to cl-symbol-macrolet Jonas Bernoulli
2014-03-12 15:12 ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-12 15:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-12 16:04   ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-12 18:00   ` David Engster
2014-03-12 18:46     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-12 22:12     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2014-03-12 22:52       ` David Engster [this message]
2020-08-16 18:57 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2020-08-16 19:09   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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