From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21601: 25.0.50; (elisp) `Common Keywords', :group Date: Tue, 03 May 2016 00:03:41 +0200 Message-ID: <87eg9k86de.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87mvoa7n6x.fsf@gnus.org> <2d14e37e-955b-4fb6-b1e4-fa1686f6f77a@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462226742 9218 80.91.229.3 (2 May 2016 22:05:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 22:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21601@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 03 00:05:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1axLy7-0006Cc-0i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 May 2016 00:05:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38887 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axLy2-0007sB-Vk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 18:05:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48248) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axLxt-0007fU-RL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 18:05:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axLxh-0004VO-BY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 18:05:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:50203) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axLxh-0004Uc-82 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 18:05:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axLxd-0001NG-LD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 18:05:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 22:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21601 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21601-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21601.14622266665225 (code B ref 21601); Mon, 02 May 2016 22:05:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21601) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2016 22:04:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34304 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axLx3-0001MC-Nw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 18:04:25 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:54356) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axLx1-0001M4-QM for 21601@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 18:04:24 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axLwM-00030t-3S; Tue, 03 May 2016 00:04:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: <2d14e37e-955b-4fb6-b1e4-fa1686f6f77a@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:15:20 -0800 (GMT-08:00)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117619 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> > Mention here, in the part about :group, and not just in node `Variable >> > Definitions', that if :group is not specified then the defcustom >> > inherits the group from the last :group of a preceding defcustom in the >> > same file. >> >> I did now know that. But is that something we want to encourage? > > It's not something that I think should be encouraged. > But it is something that Stefan encourages. And he > actively removes :group declarations that are not > strictly necessary. > > As long as that is the practice, so that many defcustoms > and deffaces do not have :group (and that is increasingly > the case, for distributed Emacs code, at least), we should > document the behavior (IMHO). I agree. I've now mentioned this in the emacs-25 manual. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no