bug#13326: document how to include more types of error messages in view-echo-area-messages

bug#13326: document how to include more types of error messages in view-echo-area-messages

[jidanni]

We see

   C-h e runs the command view-echo-area-messages, which is an
   interactive compiled Lisp function in `help.el'.

   It is bound to C-h e, <f1> e, <help> e.

   (view-echo-area-messages)

   View the log of recent echo-area messages: the `*Messages*' buffer.
   The number of messages retained in that buffer
   is specified by the variable `message-log-max'.

However underfed key messages don't end in there and indeed have no way
to be captured. So perhaps the above description should mention how to
capture them,

bug#13326: document how to include more types of error messages in view-echo-area-messages

[npostavs]

tags 13326 moreinfo
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jidanni@jidanni.org writes:

>    View the log of recent echo-area messages: the `*Messages*' buffer.
>    The number of messages retained in that buffer
>    is specified by the variable `message-log-max'.
>
> However underfed key messages don't end in there and indeed have no way
> to be captured. So perhaps the above description should mention how to
> capture them,

What's an "underfed key message"?

bug#13326: document how to include more types of error messages in view-echo-area-messages

[積丹尼 Dan Jacobson]

n> What's an "underfed key message"?

E.g., I hit C-x j
and at the bottom of the screen I see
C-x j is undefined
But this is now shown with C-h e in emacs-version "24.5.1"
so I'm closing this bug.

bug#24174: save-some-buffers should let me also visit

[積丹尼 Dan Jacobson]

With a buffer not saved,
Hit C-x s
You will get asked a question.
This question is not recorded in C-h e, so I cannot show it to you. BAD!
There are many choices,

Type SPC or `y' to save the current buffer;
DEL or `n' to skip the current buffer;
RET or `q' to give up on the save (skip all remaining buffers);
C-g to quit (cancel the whole command);
! to save all remaining buffers;
C-r to view this buffer;
d to view changes in this buffer;
or . (period) to save the current buffer and exit.

But none of them let one visit the buffer and just stay there.

You might think C-r would,

But after it asks its question again, and you say n, the buffer is once
again taken away from your vision.

Please add

g to go to this buffer with no further ado or actions;

emacs-version "24.5.1".

bug#24174: save-some-buffers should let me also visit

[npostavs]

forcemerge 3625 24174
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This is familiar...

積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> writes:

> With a buffer not saved,
> Hit C-x s
> You will get asked a question.
> This question is not recorded in C-h e, so I cannot show it to you. BAD!
> There are many choices,
>
> Type SPC or `y' to save the current buffer;
> DEL or `n' to skip the current buffer;
> RET or `q' to give up on the save (skip all remaining buffers);
> C-g to quit (cancel the whole command);
> ! to save all remaining buffers;
> C-r to view this buffer;
> d to view changes in this buffer;
> or . (period) to save the current buffer and exit.
>
> But none of them let one visit the buffer and just stay there.
>
> You might think C-r would,
>
> But after it asks its question again, and you say n, the buffer is once
> again taken away from your vision.
>
> Please add
>
> g to go to this buffer with no further ado or actions;
>
> emacs-version "24.5.1".

bug#13326: bug#24174: save-some-buffers should let me also visit

[積丹尼 Dan Jacobson]

reopen 13326
thanks

Yup, seems like this 24174 problem (and grandpa, me) will be "with us for a while".

P.S., for 13326 I in 24174 found something that still doesn't end up in
C-h e' output. (Marked "BAD" in my 24174 comments, so I might as well reopen
13326 too!

bug#13326: document how to include more types of error messages in view-echo-area-messages

[Glenn Morris]

Version: 26.1

Dan Jacobson wrote:

> reopen 13326
> thanks
>
> Yup, seems like this 24174 problem (and grandpa, me) will be "with us
> for a while".
>
> P.S., for 13326 I in 24174 found something that still doesn't end up in
> C-h e' output. (Marked "BAD" in my 24174 comments, so I might as well reopen
> 13326 too!

Translation: you would like questions asked by map-y-or-n-p to be
recorded in the Messages buffer.
Done in a6776f0.