From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36903: 27.0.50; gnus registry vs. debbugs Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 06:37:53 +0800 Message-ID: <87ef0feuke.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87pnlmen9q.fsf@web.de> <87zhkqw965.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zhkpq0az.fsf@web.de> <87ef21wzrm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r261pwi6.fsf@web.de> <87tvaxvfxc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87pnllvera.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lfw497re.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87blx0afpv.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r25rz36l.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87o90u2yq9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874l1e7wcq.fsf@gnus.org> <87v9tuh08w.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h85dycnh.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgoxf86i.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87muf4tlve.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="241356"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: 36903@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 17 00:39:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i9zeK-0010hc-2n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:38:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i9zdD-0003H4-CV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:38:04 -0400 Original-Received: from 195-159-176-226.customer.powertech.no ([195.159.176.226]:52052 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i9zdD-0003GQ-5p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:38:03 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i9zd9-000zaL-IC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 00:37:59 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:KgJCgw/BcPa7LxWnWccgrzcw7W0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:166598 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> I can do that for in-tree code, and my own packages, but who knows what >> else is out there that might try something similar. > > Well, we can't control out-of-tree code, but Gnus should (in general) be > able to generate a summary buffer without Gnus having been started -- I > mean, that's a design goal. Okay, I'll make that change in gnus-registry.el, and elsewhere. I'll keep that design goal in mind, though I wouldn't be surprised if we run into more weirdness in this situation where the user's gnus.el has been loaded, but then Gnus itself shut down. >> But it's probably a better solution than anything else I can think of. >> I'd be inclined to just have them return an empty string. Another >> possibility would be to have the formatting code wrap the user-function >> funcall in `ignore-errors' and return an empty string there. > > That doesn't sound very friendly when trying to debug errors... No, you're right, I was just throwing out ideas.