From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#37926: [PATCH] Unify Gnus select methods Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 10:56:00 +0100 Message-ID: <87eey6968f.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87zhhoh9kn.fsf@dick> <87a79mcmoi.fsf@gnus.org> <87h83tsew0.fsf@dick> <87imo9azh4.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgndht6t.fsf@dick> <878sp5arwy.fsf@gnus.org> <87r22w2ij7.fsf@dick> <87bltz21w4.fsf@gnus.org> <87h83r4iiq.fsf@dick> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="112978"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 37926@debbugs.gnu.org To: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 17 10:57:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iWHIt-000TDR-4i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 10:57:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52976 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iWHIr-0006BT-My for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 04:57:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33718) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iWHIl-00069M-0h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 04:57:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iWHIj-0007jQ-U2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 04:57:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:59761) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iWHIj-0007jL-RD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 04:57:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iWHIj-0001GU-OS; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 04:57:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 09:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37926 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 37926-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37926.15739845714785 (code B ref 37926); Sun, 17 Nov 2019 09:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 37926) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2019 09:56:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40345 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iWHHu-0001F6-Vq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 04:56:11 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:45712) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iWHHt-0001Es-CM for 37926@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 04:56:09 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iWHHl-0005X5-Ef; Sun, 17 Nov 2019 10:56:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87h83r4iiq.fsf@dick> (dick r. chiang's message of "Tue, 29 Oct 2019 12:35:09 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171790 Archived-At: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com writes: > The patch, rather opinionatedly, instructs new users to specify their backends > via a single defcustom `gnus-select-methods`. And I don't think that'll fly -- people has to be able to just setq stuff in their .gnus files. So while the patch is a valiant effort, I don't think it really solves any problems -- it just tries to wallpaper over the problems, but the wall is full of holes and I think the result is even more confusing that what we have today. So I'm not applying this and I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no