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From: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
To: 41747@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#41747: 27.0.91; Add default fontset setup for "Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A"
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2020 11:27:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eeqopp0q.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874krnq9df.fsf@gmail.com>

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

> This sounds like a possibly important issue, though perhaps mostly
> independent of Emacs.  Would someone who knows the Symbols situation
> well please offer to explain this to me?

Here's my attempt at a summary; corrections welcome:

- Up to 2018, the Unicode Fonts for Ancient Scripts (UFAS) project
  released its fonts under terms that suggested a free license[1]:

- One of these fonts, Symbola, has an exhaustive coverage of Unicode
  "symbol" characters, so exhaustive that we use it in our default
  fontset for various "symbol subgroups"[2].

- In 2018, the license for UFAS has changed to the document I referenced
  in my earlier message[3].

- Most GNU/Linux distributions reached the same conclusion: the terms of
  this new license does not allow redistribution under any way, shape or
  form[4].  Therefore, these distros now only ship the last free-license
  version of Symbola.

- New versions of Unicode have come and gone since then; they have
  introduced new blocks and new characters (cf. the initial bug report).

- Newer versions of Symbola have followed like clockwork to cover the
  latest "symbol" characters.

- Unfortunately, these new versions fall under the new, non-free
  license.  IIUC this makes them unsuitable for Emacs's default fontset.


Distro developers have reached out to the UFAS developer (as recently as
two months ago for Gentoo[4]; see also Fedora thread linked earlier),
but they could not convince him to switch back to a free license.


[1] The terms have changed over the years; see for example:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150316132421/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

> *in lieu of a licence* Fonts and documents in this site are not pieces
> of property or merchandise items; they carry no trademark, copyright,
> license or other market tags; they are free for any use. George Douros

https://web.archive.org/web/20180212144935/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

> In lieu of a licence; fonts and documents in this site are free for
> any use; George Douros

[2] M-x find-library RET fontset RET C-s Symbola

[3] https://dn-works.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/UFAS-Docs/License.pdf

[4] In my earlier message I linked to the relevant NixOS, Arch Linux and
    Fedora threads; for good measure, here are Debian, Ubuntu and
    Gentoo:

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=897047
    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-ancient-fonts/+bug/1824065
    https://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org/msg88799.html






  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-09  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-07 13:43 bug#41747: 27.0.91; Add default fontset setup for "Symbols and Pictographs Extended-A" Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-06-07 13:47 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-06-07 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-07 15:22   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-06-08 14:36     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-08 20:59       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-06-09  2:38         ` Richard Stallman
2020-06-09  9:58           ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-06-09 14:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-10  0:53             ` Richard Stallman
2020-06-10  8:36               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-06-10 14:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-11 20:58                 ` Alan Third
2020-06-11 21:03                   ` Alan Third
2020-06-10 14:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-11  3:40                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-06-09 14:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-09  2:35       ` Richard Stallman
2020-06-09  9:27         ` Kévin Le Gouguec [this message]
2020-06-09 14:41           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-10  0:55           ` Richard Stallman
2020-06-10  8:50             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-06-11  3:36               ` Richard Stallman

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