From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8083: cua global mark does much more than it announces Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 18:54:16 +0100 Message-ID: <87eeifmr3r.fsf@gnus.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25776"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 8083@debbugs.gnu.org, storm@cua.dk To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 20 19:08:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l2Htn-0006b3-I1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 19:08:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56556 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2Htm-0003bt-Jc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 13:08:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55148) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2Hh8-0003TX-2E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 12:55:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44705) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2Hh7-0005QH-Np for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 12:55:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2Hh7-0001FP-LT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 12:55:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 17:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8083 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 8083-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8083.16111652694738 (code B ref 8083); Wed, 20 Jan 2021 17:55:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8083) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2021 17:54:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56248 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2Hgb-0001EM-0r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 12:54:29 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:47602) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2HgY-0001E5-L0 for 8083@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 12:54:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=KArcLm3ZjqmIf5ivAvHbtKIJZqXL4TMpAJxGy82Sx08=; b=P04DLuLmIgXl/HbP1VZ3HvRrgx gtW1qJU0lBOY8pN0NjKqEdnCkziIwwZHOizqPyGrOANw87LN9n8ZUOwHkTKnhv8Omle+TBJCiyFxQ 0tTbNI6gC9XRXHlIqWv/4hBzE9VQ8baK8Khk22cKomKqOX6U9lb26ZRKdRCpTJ7ubMy0=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l2HgP-00026M-H3; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 18:54:19 +0100 X-Now-Playing: Joe Jackson's _Live 1980-86 (2)_: "Memphis" In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Sun, 20 Feb 2011 01:12:00 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:198292 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > cua-toggle-global-mark doc string says: > > "Set or cancel the global marker. > When the global marker is set, CUA cut and copy commands will automatically > insert the deleted or copied text before the global marker, even when the > global marker is in another buffer. > If the global marker isn't set, set the global marker at point in the current > buffer. Otherwise jump to the global marker position and cancel it. > With prefix argument, don't jump to global mark when cancelling it." > > However when cua global mark is set quite a few other things also > happens. For example self-insert-command is remapped so that the > character you type is inserted at cua global mark. (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately got no response at the time.) I've now adjusted the doc string to also mention inserted text in Emacs 28. > I think also that this desing is not good . It is surprising to an > uninformed user and it interferes very badly with viper for example. > > Kim, could we please remove this? Or do you have another suggestion? I have no opinion on the functionality itself, but I'm going to guess that there's not much enthusiasm to change it after all these years, so I'm closing this bug report. If people want to work on this, please respond to the debbugs address and we'll reopen. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no