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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: 57003@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57003: 28.1.90; Can local variables be loaded before loading major mode?
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2022 20:30:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edxqzzm6.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bksv0ya6.fsf@gnus.org>

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

>> 3. org-startup-folded is just an example. We have numerous variables
>>    like this. I can recall at least several dozens without looking into
>>    source code. Creating a minor mode for each and every single possible
>>    variable like this is not maintainable. We will certainly forget
>>    creating dedicated modes when adding similar variables in future.
>
> There's dozens of variables that have to be set before `org-mode' is
> called?  That sounds like an fragile design.

This is not strictly necessary to set them before the whole Org is
loaded. In some cases, only part of Org has to be reloaded: font-locking
setup; parser; folding state; etc (which is a normal scenario when done
interactively). However, such reloading adds up to file opening time. It
is much faster to set everything once and load Org compared to (1) load
org; (2) load variable and reload org; (3) load another variable and
reload org; and so on.

+ creating a dedicated minor mode for every variable is not maintainable.

Having Emacs support early setting would be much easier.

Best,
Ihor






  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-08 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-05 11:44 bug#57003: 28.1.90; Can local variables be loaded before loading major mode? Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-06 13:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-06 13:35   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-06 14:00     ` Visuwesh
2022-08-06 14:34       ` Phil Sainty
2022-08-07 12:44     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-07 13:23       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-07 13:30         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-07 13:52           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-08 11:28             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-08 12:30               ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2022-08-08 12:35                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-08 12:58                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-08 14:23                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-09 11:29                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-12 12:38                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-13  1:33                           ` Phil Sainty
2022-08-13 11:52                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-13  9:02                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-13 11:55                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-13 12:22                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-13 12:32                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-15  3:09                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-08-15  3:15                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-17  2:50                                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-08-17 10:08                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-08-29  3:34                                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-08-31  3:29                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-18 13:29     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-29  6:24       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-29 14:40         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-30  2:57           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-30  3:43             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-30  3:51               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-30  4:01                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-30 12:30                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-31  3:08                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-30  6:59               ` Ihor Radchenko

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