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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 57693@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57693: 29.0.50; Is there a more reliable version of `char-displayable-p'?
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 16:17:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edwjy77h.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837d2bbr2s.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> This should indeed be slightly more accurate. However, it will still not
>> cover scenarios when, for example, an overlay at point has 'face
>> property that sets a font that is unable to display given char. Or do I
>> miss something?
>
> Or what if the character has a display-table entry that calls for
> displaying a different codepoint?
>
> Such situations would require a very different test to be 100%
> accurate.

Yup. And I am asking if there is such test exposed to Elisp. Display
code certainly knows when some character cannot be displayed and must be
replaced by its hex code.

> For that reason, my suggestion would be to have the defcustom by
> default specify some safe value, and leave it to users to customize it
> to more fancy characters if they know it works in their
> configurations.  Or just document that the default value may not
> produce the expected display in some rare situations, i.e. leave it to
> the users in such rare situations to customize back to a safe value.

This is not great. I am really hoping that we can make nicer defaults
when possible and only fallback to something robust when fancy version
cannot be used.

I was hoping that Org can do the following:
1. Allow org-agenda-current-time-string to be a list of ("fancy string"
 "fallback")
2. When actually inserting org-agenda-current-time-string to buffer,
test if "fancy string" can be displayed and if not insert the
"fallback".

The only question is how to test whether all the chars in the inserted
string are displayed.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko,
Org mode contributor,
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-10  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-09 13:25 bug#57693: 29.0.50; Is there a more reliable version of `char-displayable-p'? Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-09 13:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-09 22:25   ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-10  6:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-10  6:06       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-10  6:35         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-10  6:44           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-10  4:48   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-10  6:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-10  6:37       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-10  7:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-10  8:17           ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2022-09-10  8:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-11  9:31               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-11  9:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-11 10:07                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-12  5:46                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-12 11:15                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-13  1:44                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-13 11:19                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-14  1:52                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-14  2:43                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 19:18                       ` Stefan Kangas
2023-02-17 19:29                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 22:31                           ` Stefan Kangas
2023-02-18  6:56                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-18  9:00                               ` Stefan Kangas
2023-02-18  9:18                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-18 11:32                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-18 11:56                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-19 11:31                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-19 11:55                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-19 12:08                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-19 12:23                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-19 14:19                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-19 15:02                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-18 11:35                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-18 12:00                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-12  5:24                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-09 13:46 ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-09 22:25   ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-10  4:56     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-10  6:02     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-10  4:53   ` Ihor Radchenko

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