From: miha--- via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 58176@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#58176: 29.0.50; mouse-set-point region flicker with highlight-nonselected-windows=t and same buffer in two windows
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2022 12:00:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edvrualw.fsf@miha-pc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83czbccddy.fsf@gnu.org>
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> (I'm assuming that by "show regions of zero length", you mean that the
>> "Copy text" toolbar icon is enabled.)
>
> No, we actually attempt to display zero-length regions in the text.
Maybe there's something obvious I'm missing, but in a graphical emacs
-q, I can't see a zero length active region in the text at all. That is,
after activating it with C-SPC or a non-dragging mouse-1 button press, I
can't see a single pixel around point changing to indicate the region. I
even tried it after considerably enlarging the font with 'C-x C-+ + + +
+ ...'.
(On the other hand, zero-length rectangular regions, created with C-x
SPC, are properly indicated with a thin vertical line, but we aren't
talking about rectangular regions here.)
>> I hope I'm not arguing semantics too much, but my patch doesn't actually
>> hide an (active) region of zero length, it prevents one from being
>> activated.
>
> Which is against the behavior we want, I think.
>
>> It only prevents it in the specific case of a non-dragging mouse-1
>> click, which makes quite a lot sense to me. The current behaviour of a
>> non-dragging mouse-1 click is that the zero-length region is only active
>> for the duration of the mouse button being held down. Once the button is
>> released, the zero-length region is deactivated, which makes it not very
>> useful, as far as I can see.
>
> It is useful in the much more frequent use case where the user then
> drags the mouse.
This use case is, of course, still supported by my patch.
I was talking about the very specific zero-length region, active for the
duration of a non-dragging mouse-1 button being held down. My patch
affects only this specific use-case
>> If you want to create a zero-length region that stays active after
>> releasing mouse-1, you have to drag the mouse a little first to make the
>> region length non-zero and then drag the mouse back to the starting
>> position to make the region length zero again. This use case is still
>> supported by my patch.
>>
>> (Perhaps I missed some use-cases of a zero-length region active during a
>> non-dragging mouse-1 button hold. If you know any, please let me know
>> about them.)
>>
>> This, together with the fact that it reduces the "flicker" from the
>> original message, makes me insist on the patch.
>
> I still insist that what you propose is the opposite of the behavior
> we want.
Another unrelated thing to consider is the current behaviour of
clicking/dragging C-M-mouse-1. It doesn't activate a rectangular region
until the user drags C-M-mouse-1. In fact, if the user only does a
non-dragging C-M-mouse-1 click, the rectangular region is never
activated, only the point moves. You can try experimenting with
C-M-mouse-1 and see, if this is really the opposite of the behaviour we
want.
In essence, my patch tries to make behaviour of mouse-1 region
activation more similar to C-M-mouse-1 rectangular region activation.
(Emacs build info follows, since the non-display of zero-length
non-rectangular regions in the text could be dependent on build
configuration.)
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Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-29 17:38 bug#58176: 29.0.50; mouse-set-point region flicker with highlight-nonselected-windows=t and same buffer in two windows miha--- via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-29 18:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29 21:09 ` miha--- via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-09-30 5:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-30 21:15 ` miha--- via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-10-01 5:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01 10:00 ` miha--- via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2022-10-01 9:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
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