From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: David Masterson <dsmasterson@gmail.com>,
emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, michel@schi.nz, 59882@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#59882: Multiple versions of Org in load-path problem
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:51:01 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edt2qpoa.fsf__13238.1924589694$1671011558$gmane$org@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <835yel11x8.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> So, 'describe-variable' on org-version causes Org to be loaded?!?
>
> Why is it so surprising? Is this the first time you see that a Help
> command loads something to do its job?
On a related note, is it normal that package like org-mouse.el gets
loaded upon calling C-h f org-mouse- <TAB> completion prompt?
org-mouse.el does not contain a single autoload cookie.
I am asking because org-mouse.el advises some functions and its loading
may cause unexpected consequences. See
https://orgmode.org/list/87r0x6sju1.fsf@fastmail.fm
At the same time, we have users complaining about some defcustoms not
being available without loading.
https://orgmode.org/list/25496.19258.682537.503614@gargle.gargle.HOWL
I feel confused about the situation.
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
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