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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 248499da6fe4587de778642411cb2439; Sun, 19 Feb 2023 05:07:19 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87h6vkbgot.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Fri, 17 Feb 2023 12:49:06 +0000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21183 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:256022 Archived-At: Ihor Radchenko writes: > I assume that GNU kind communication guidelines also apply to the > manuals. At least to some degree. > > : > > Please avoid statements about the presumed typical desires, capabilities > or actions of some demographic group. They can offend people in that > group, ... > > ... > > If other participants complain about the way you express your ideas, > please make an effort to cater to them. You can find ways to express > the same points while making others more comfortable. You are more > likely to persuade others if you don't arouse ire about secondary > things. > > I think that the above two guidelines can be applied to some of the > discussed jokes. Those guidelines are guidelines, not requirements, and do not extend to unreasonable complaints.