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P.'s message of "Fri, 18 Oct 2024 10:55:07 -0700") X-Authenticated-Id: masked@neverwas.me X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:294466 gmane.emacs.erc.general:2585 Archived-At: "J.P." writes: >> All in all, I'd prefer to leave this alone in Emacs 30. We have time >> to try reverting this on master and seeing whether it's a net win or a >> net loss, given the past history of the issue. (AFAIU, if you remove >> this line, some change is pertinent in the manual?) It's been reverted on master for ten days now with no complaints: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=1854f275 If that's long enough to qualify as a net win, can we proceed with a backport?