From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Schroeder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: Emacs Website. Was: 21.2 release. Was: dabbrev can hang in presence of fields Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:07:57 +0100 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87d6xwkj9e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87pu1zcx8y.fsf_-_@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1016791575 2558 127.0.0.1 (22 Mar 2002 10:06:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16oLw7-0000f9-00 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:06:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16oLw6-0005SB-00; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 05:06:14 -0500 Original-Received: from news.swissonline.ch ([62.2.16.82]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16oLvP-0005Q3-00 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 05:05:31 -0500 Original-Received: (from news@localhost) by news.swissonline.ch (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g2MA5TO25519; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:05:29 +0100 (MET) Original-To: gnu-emacs-bug@gnu.org Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug X-Face: ^BC$`[IcggstLPyen&dqF+b2'zyK#r.mU*'Nms}@&4zw%SJ#5!/7SMVjBS7'lb;QK)|IPU5U'o1'522W4TyzB3Ab*IBo^iw]l4|kUbdZuUDO6=Um-.4IzhNiV'B"@K#jy_(wW|Zbk[34flKY^|PrQ?$u2\fKg^]AY>wOX#H32i Original-Lines: 43 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:DpCM7UUrK9pXX1ntFXTXDmC83bg= Original-Path: Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.162.233.245 Original-X-Trace: news.swissonline.ch 1016791529 217.162.233.245 (22 Mar 2002 11:05:29 +0100) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@swissonline.ch Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:48 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:48 eliz@is.elta.co.il (Eli Zaretskii) writes: >> That's what I like about the Emacs Wiki. When I'm not there, >> somebody else will be. The entry barrier is just one click away - >> anybody can edit the pages. And once you fix something, there is no >> implicit expectation that you will continue to do so. > > Are you suggesting the same for the Emacs home page? I would, if I thought it would stand a chance. I just assume that either the GNU people running the server don't want to install weird software (such as the wiki script), or people are affraid of abuse. But other than that, yes, I think it is a good solution. It works fine on the wiki. It has now 731 pages, and managed to get lots of hits: Hits Bytes Visits PViews Month 73,336 559,873,686 11,519 66,214 Jan 2002 75,276 592,474,181 11,548 71,494 Feb 2002 And still I can remember only one case of abuse and it was easily corrected by the next person coming along (the old pages are kept for a certain time). So I think there are no significant drawbacks and it would fix the maintainer problem. I never voluntered for the Emacs page on gnu.org because that means responsability and work -- on the emacswiki, however, responsability and work is shared. If installing a wiki doesn't work for you for the reasons given above, then perhaps "outsourcing" as much information as possible to the existing wiki is the way to go. The main page could just say "Emacs is an Editor and more. This site only features the Emacs manual (link), the elisp manual (link) and the NT Emacs FAQ (link). Pointers to CVS, the latest released version, the online FAQ, etc. are maintained over at the Emacs Wiki (link)." Ok, enough plugging. :) Alex. -- http://www.emacswiki.org/ _______________________________________________ Bug-gnu-emacs mailing list Bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs