From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19731: 24.4; /dev/null is deleted by tramp-sh.el Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:50:41 +0100 Message-ID: <87d25s2ium.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87r3u8k065.fsf@gmx.de> <87mw4wjyqi.fsf@gmx.de> <87h9v4jxde.fsf@gmx.de> <87d25sjwgj.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422906677 9173 80.91.229.3 (2 Feb 2015 19:51:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 19:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: crocket , 19731@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 02 20:51:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YIN1g-00062p-0u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:51:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56237 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIN1f-0000i5-D9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:51:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55959) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIN1Z-0000ew-Ri for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:51:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIN1S-0001U5-0D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:51:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41176) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIN1R-0001Ty-UA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:51:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YIN1R-0000DA-LI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:51:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 19:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19731 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19731-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19731.1422906656801 (code B ref 19731); Mon, 02 Feb 2015 19:51:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2015 19:50:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60649 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YIN1L-0000Cr-VR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:50:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:49290) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YIN1J-0000Cc-48 for 19731@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:50:53 -0500 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.50.120]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lj1Xa-1XfBz20Vw6-00dHnh; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:50:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:44:00 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:9CYQ01FU2VFavsoi5ttghpzF/Y+rsNzdRRYX51v3bCLOAj2byRB N28hihHNtD1pjrB76kIDDFf4rzUS4RZRAc6WMuhEKJbIfsWeNKofTJap8PdEiaWm+aAGtMp +hGzDgJ2VaTp6HswtTRGHv0DU9UAG7P6abLOd3JkTL4fJ1sR9+q+1630Riyl32WCnz7mjrG pUByoYornJHIc3wRMBhQw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:98995 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Well, I'm kind of conservative. Setting HISTFILE to /dev/null is the >> default for years, and your report is the first one about this problem. > > It seems like a plain bug for bash to do what it does Looks to me like this. > (does it also > turn a symlink into a plain file? wouldn't that also be a bug?), but > I wonder: what could Tramp do instead of setting HISTFILE to /dev/null? > Could unsetting it result in the same behavior (i.e. not save Tramp's > commands to any file)? That's how I understood the doc. Hope somebody will test it. > Stefan Best regards, Michael. PS: I've changed the corresponding value of `tramp-histfile-override' to t instead of `unset'. It looks more natural to Lisp.