From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21138: 24.5; package system not initializing Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 21:29:38 +1000 Message-ID: <87d1zdzvml.fsf@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437996628 4640 80.91.229.3 (27 Jul 2015 11:30:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:30:28 +0000 (UTC) To: 21138@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 27 13:30:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJgbo-0001Mm-Kv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:30:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52797 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJgbo-0003IA-1s for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:30:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48455) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJgbj-0003Hx-8R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:30:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJgbe-0005YN-24 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:30:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58260) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJgbd-0005Xf-VN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:30:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJgbc-0007BP-Uw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:30:05 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alexis Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:30:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21138 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.143799659727576 (code B ref -1); Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:30:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2015 11:29:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59706 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJgbU-0007Ah-Gi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:29:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34890) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJgbR-0007AZ-Ve for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:29:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJgbQ-0005GV-Uq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:29:53 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:42830) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJgbQ-0005GQ-SE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:29:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48397) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJgbP-0003Cl-Qh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:29:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJgbK-0005E6-Nd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:29:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::235]:34498) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJgbK-0005D3-GH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:29:46 -0400 Original-Received: by pacan13 with SMTP id an13so51319853pac.1 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 04:29:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=zzGxfzdjJ1lQQATEMjIohHxJviVBEoFuhSheJtxaTcE=; b=iqgAxjx6G1w3RXOv5lSf7zvxv93qqKTDJp1rh69T0/izNYpZz1eqJxOomqhepJRCS6 NZONDrPv/Aa1zBDVQhfx+BNSskwDDIBCLBP5GEFOB/xA7C+nPSou3pQaUbgNuqnv0rkV 6VFRuu9zVTQtrqgZDQV3OaLRuoCAeAqCefmS0c114Lu6Ip5JOq196BM94IL+Eh8NyPBB iwu6iBnBFjtShmZs4TOmlCY5zMrDYnLsCMZ1/z/B2Hj73fBY/mAJZDOBiYBGQluE5LjN ColY8Y5FlnvLu+1hi77vAV109rGGzCps0x8GMkVGQcHR3qAvbQoMvPWpj8gbaDqdRgJx HklQ== X-Received: by 10.66.100.233 with SMTP id fb9mr66178065pab.128.1437996584893; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 04:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (ppp118-209-68-11.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net. 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X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:105151 Archived-At: Artur Malabarba writes: >> Do I need to call package-initialize in 24.5? The documentation >> implies I do not. > > You do not. > >> On a fresh install of 24.5, I am not seeing the package system >> initialize. > > What makes you think that? What values do you get for > `package--initialized` and for `package-enable-at-startup` after > Emacs has finished starting up? i'm on 24.5.2 (manually compiled on Debian Jessie x86_64), and when i comment out `package-initialize' from my init.el and start a non-daemonised instance of Emacs, startup doesn't fully complete due to `package-archives' being a void variable on which my config tries to use `add-to-list'. Then, commenting out such lines, i get errors on calls to things like `emms-all' - i have emms-20150519.736 installed from MELPA. After startup completes, `package--initialized' and `package-enable-at-startup' are both set to `t'. Alexis.