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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net>, 19284@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#19284: 25.0.50; tls.el uses option --insecure
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 11:00:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d1tmzjzn.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3twmz4wzq.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 30 Dec 2015 19:22:49 +0100")

On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 19:22:49 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> There is a user experience difference between relying on external tools
>> implicitly, which tls.el does, and explicitly, which ProxyCommand does.
>> Also, tls.el is not granular like ProxyCommand or the `nnimap-stream'
>> functionality, it applies to all connectivity. I hope that explains my
>> reasoning better.

LMI> Yeah.  For the version after this, we should dump tls.el (and
LMI> starttls.el) completely.  If somebody wants a way to do TLS proxying, we
LMI> should add that as separate functionality, not something that plops out
LMI> as a side-effect of using gnutls-cli.

Ivan, do you want to summarize the three separate proposals to emacs-devel
or should I? I think it's time to move it out of this bug report since
Lars has committed the changes to fix it.

The proposals, I think, were:

1) provide a new function hook point for tls.el to provide
network-stream functionality, and make that a defcustom that can be
overridden by host and port

2) move tls.el out of Emacs into the GNU ELPA

3) support TLS proxying in gnutls.el or at the C level, if we can define
what that actually means

Thanks
Ted





  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-31 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-05 19:43 bug#19284: 25.0.50; tls.el uses option --insecure Jens Lechtenboerger
2015-12-26 21:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-26 21:39   ` Andreas Schwab
2015-12-26 21:49     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-27  9:59       ` Andreas Schwab
2015-12-28 22:04   ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-12-29 13:29     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-29 19:25     ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-12-30 14:46       ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-12-30 15:57         ` Ivan Shmakov
2015-12-30 16:38           ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-12-30 18:22         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-31 16:00           ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2015-12-31 18:32             ` Ivan Shmakov

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