From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: 20489@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#20489: 25.0.50; next-error-find-buffer chooses non-current buffer without good reason
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 02:35:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d1se62co.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56B00903.7050706@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 2 Feb 2016 04:40:19 +0300")
>> The primary question is not how many users asked for it many years ago,
>> but how many users are using it now.
>
> You're welcome to poll, but so far we only have the data about
> a single user.
Yes, a single user who wants to remove it ;)
>> Obviously, get-mru-“next-error”-window, i.e. a combination of both.
>
> I have no idea what that means, really. Are we going to store a reference
> to a window instead of a reference to a buffer? And then take the reference
> to the buffer from that window?
Just traverse all windows in the order of recency until finding a window
with next-error-function.
>>> And, again, this ignores the Flycheck case.
>>
>> Alas, this means we have to trade visibility of next-error-last-buffer
>> for window-local values.
>
> What means? And why?
In case of Flycheck it's next-error-last-buffer is the current buffer
and is always visible.
>>> With your approach, no window will affect other windows. Even if I ran M-x
>>> rgrep, and I see its buffer in the current frame, I'll also have to
>>> remember which window it ended at. And if I never clicked on a link in the
>>> *grep* buffer, I can't use C-x ` in any window, I'm assuming.
>>
>> C-x ` in any window will use the global value, i.e. the last navigation.
>
> So, not only we'll have local values, we'll also have a global one?
When there is no local values, then indeed use a global one.
> Upon invoking that command, will focus immediately jump to the one window
> associated with the navigation buffer?
Naturally.
>>> Suppose I use flycheck-next-error in foo.el. And I have a *grep* buffer
>>> visible, and I jumped to bar.el from it. And the next error in *grep* is in
>>> foo.el. What happens when I, having returned to bar.el's window, call
>>> next-error again? Does it jump to foo.el's window? Does it display foo.el
>>> in the window where bar.el previously was?
>>
>> It will display foo.el in the window where bar.el previously was.
>
> Aren't you at all worried about running out of windows (and not being
> allowed to split them)? In our last discussion with Martin, he expressed
> concern that some users use one window per frame. In this scenario, you'll
> need at least 3. And with two navigational buffers visible, the number of
> necessary windows will grow to 5.
I meant reusing an existing window with a file buffer, not creating a new
window. I see no reason not to use this behavior by default.
>> AFAIS, this is the point of the current discussion on emacs-devel -
>> to fix xref's window management to work like *compilation* and visit
>> navigated windows predictably.
>
> *compilation* isn't afraid to use different windows when it's
> convenient. It definitely reuses another window if the buffer it's going to
> jump to is already displayed.
What I see is that *compilation* always reuses another window to not replace
the navigational *compilation* buffer with a file buffer. Do you know
under what circumstances this behavior might fail.
>>> But if we have a new command, I could also allow selecting from some of the
>>> existing buffers which contain "nonlocal" next-error-function's.
>>
>> Why only “nonlocal”?
>
> Because otherwise there'll be too many options too choose from. To use
> a different buffer, the user can switch to it first anyway.
>
> Nonlocal next-error-functions represent groups of windows that are somehow
> related (parts of the same problem, matches for the same input, or so
> on). And with them, we can at least expect that the next error still might
> be in the current buffer.
This is why I proposed window-local variables to bind a group of windows
to their parent navigational window.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-03 0:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-02 23:17 bug#20489: 25.0.50; next-error-find-buffer chooses non-current buffer without good reason Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-03 5:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-03 12:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-04 22:03 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-05-04 22:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-04 22:33 ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-05-05 15:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-05-05 15:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-01-24 21:10 ` Juri Linkov
2016-01-25 6:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-25 21:55 ` Juri Linkov
2016-01-25 23:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-27 0:57 ` Juri Linkov
2016-01-27 2:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-27 22:57 ` Juri Linkov
2016-01-27 23:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-28 23:59 ` Juri Linkov
2016-01-29 0:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-29 23:44 ` Juri Linkov
2016-01-30 0:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-30 23:43 ` Juri Linkov
2016-01-31 0:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-31 21:57 ` Juri Linkov
2016-01-31 22:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-02 0:44 ` Juri Linkov
2016-02-02 1:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-03 0:35 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2016-02-04 1:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-22 0:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-22 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22 17:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-22 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22 18:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-22 18:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-22 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-27 10:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-29 3:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-29 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-29 23:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-11-06 21:53 ` Juri Linkov
2018-02-15 22:16 ` Juri Linkov
2018-02-27 1:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-02-27 1:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-02-27 18:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-02-27 21:16 ` Juri Linkov
2018-02-28 2:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-02-28 21:17 ` Juri Linkov
2018-03-02 1:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-03-06 22:17 ` Juri Linkov
2018-03-07 14:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-03-07 21:11 ` Juri Linkov
2018-03-12 22:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-02-28 21:25 ` Juri Linkov
2018-03-01 22:58 ` Juri Linkov
2018-03-02 1:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-03-06 22:25 ` Juri Linkov
2018-03-07 14:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-03-07 21:03 ` Juri Linkov
2018-02-28 21:32 ` Juri Linkov
2018-03-02 0:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-03-01 23:04 ` Juri Linkov
2018-03-02 1:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2018-02-28 17:33 ` Richard Stallman
2018-02-21 21:30 ` Juri Linkov
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