From: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: valizadeh.ho@gmail.com, 41005@debbugs.gnu.org, nicholasdrozd@gmail.com
Subject: bug#41005: problem with rendering Persian text in Emacs 27
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2020 08:38:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d06czj00.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831rmtbny0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 05 Jun 2020 17:13:27 +0300")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
>> Cc: hossein valizadeh <valizadeh.ho@gmail.com>, 41005@debbugs.gnu.org,
>> nicholasdrozd@gmail.com
>> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2020 13:05:43 +0000
>>
>> I think the attached patch is a fairly minimal fix; it's against master,
>> applies to emacs-27 but I haven't tested it there.
>
> Thanks, it LGTM.
>
> I think we should put this on emacs-27, because this is a regression
> caused by Emacs 27's support for HarfBuzz as the default shaping
> engine. The other shapers didn't want us to provide the direction,
> they determined it internally. We added the DIRECTION argument as
> part of integrating HarfBuzz.
Okay, will do that unless someone objects.
> We could do better than your patch by actually computing the resolved
> bidi level there, which would require start_display followed by
> move_it_to, in which case we probably won't need to call
> composition_reseat_it by hand at all, and could just pick up the
> result produced by move_it_to. Or maybe we should just use
> Fvertical_motion instead (which does all that internally). But these
> ideas are for the master branch, not for emacs-27.
That sounds good.
>> Given these two bugs, I wonder whether it wouldn't be more reasonable
>> always to let HarfBuzz guess the direction, at least for Emacs-27:
>> scripts which change direction, if they are supported by HarfBuzz, won't
>> work anyway.
>
> Please explain "scripts that change direction" and "won't work
> anyway", I don't think I understand that part.
I think your example (RLO..PDF in RTL text) is better: that won't work
anyway, right now, because if, for example, you type
<HEBREW LETTER SHIN> <RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE> f i
and have set the char table to treat "fi" as a ligature, the result will
(at least sometimes) be an "fi" ligature, but it should look like the
word "if".
> The reason we don't let HarfBuzz guess in all cases is because the
> resolved bidi level, when we have it, is a more accurate indication of
> the required direction.
Yes, but we'll still cache the wrong direction. If we let HarfBuzz guess
in all cases, output will be consistent and usually correct
> For example, if you have RTL characters
> inside the LRO..PDF embedding, it would be wrong to let the shaper
> guess, because it could (and usually will) guess wrongly that the
> direction is R2L. It is true that these are rare and unusual use
> cases, but they do exist, and Emacs does want to support them,
> including with scripts that must use the shaping engine.
As I described, I don't think RLO..PDF works with shaping right now,
because other code might have already cached the non-overridden glyph
string.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-06 8:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-01 18:02 bug#41005: problem with rendering Persian text in Emacs 27 hossein valizadeh
2020-05-01 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <CAMyfNNp7FiFgAN5EVcVauawiy8ZB7U+eKY7qOeqZOnbMQfs5iQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-06-03 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-03 17:24 ` Nicholas Drozd
2020-06-03 18:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-04 2:39 ` hossein valizadeh
2020-06-04 3:01 ` hossein valizadeh
2020-06-04 4:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-04 4:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-04 6:27 ` hossein valizadeh
2020-06-04 8:28 ` Pip Cet
2020-06-04 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-04 19:52 ` Pip Cet
2020-06-05 4:46 ` hossein valizadeh
2020-06-05 6:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-05 11:07 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-06-05 12:32 ` hossein valizadeh
2020-06-05 12:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-05 13:05 ` Pip Cet
2020-06-05 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-06 8:38 ` Pip Cet [this message]
2020-06-06 9:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-06 9:11 ` Pip Cet
2020-06-06 9:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-06 13:09 ` Pip Cet
2020-06-05 14:23 ` hossein valizadeh
2020-06-05 14:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-05 6:39 ` Pip Cet
2020-06-05 8:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-05 8:41 ` Pip Cet
2020-06-05 11:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 12:40 ` Amin Bandali
2020-07-21 13:34 ` Robert Pluim
2020-07-21 17:53 ` Amin Bandali
2020-07-21 18:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-22 2:12 ` Amin Bandali
2020-07-22 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-24 4:11 ` Amin Bandali
2020-07-24 6:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-25 4:19 ` Amin Bandali
2020-07-25 6:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-25 15:53 ` Amin Bandali
2020-07-25 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-25 16:44 ` Amin Bandali
2020-07-25 16:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
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