From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48404: 28.0.50; "Invalid version syntax" errors with read-extended-command Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 16:06:03 +0200 Message-ID: <87cztqojsk.fsf@gnus.org> References: <875yzms6im.fsf@gnu.org> <83wns1zvhs.fsf@gnu.org> <871ra9kdgs.fsf@gnu.org> <83czttzstr.fsf@gnu.org> <87wns1n4k6.fsf@gnus.org> <835yzlzr37.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21014"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 48404@debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se, tsdh@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 16 16:07:23 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1liHQQ-0005Ep-QU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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This >> will hopefully help people to learn the new command name. > > But this comes with a heavy price: commands from any package that is > not bundled with Emacs will not be able to take advantage of this > feature, ever. Is it worth punishing those packages' users to have a > softer transition? Given our conservative approach to obsoleting > stuff, I'm not sure. I'm not quite sure I understand you here? If the version can't be parsed, then the command will still show up in `M-x TAB', which means that the obsoletion of these commands is very soft indeed. But I'm wondering whether `version-to-list' should be more lax here. That is, currently it'll barf of things like: (version-to-list "28.1 Magit/2.5") It might make sense to allow the obsoletion versions to refer to both an (approximate) Emacs version, as well as a package version. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no